The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities

[Tim Brewer]

I agree. Oh, hang on - there's some paint drying, I'm off to watch that. It's much more fun. Personally, I think Tim's losing it.

Col

The only thing I lost, is a glass house mentality.

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[ColinEssex]

The only thing I lost, is a glass house mentality.

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I remember having an out-of-body experience now I think back - it was after sinking about 5 pints of scrumpy Somerset cider once.

Col

 

[Tim Brewer]

I remember having an out-of-body experience now I think back - it was after sinking about 5 pints of scrumpy Somerset cider once.

Col

Six hundred and fifty million people, will have a near death experience, at some point in their life.

These people will be consumers, and these people, will want the free option I am providing, and regardless what shade, or effort, out of body experience you have, you will always have it, if the conditions are right!

I offer the best option right now.

It's safe, it's free, and it is easy to do!

This patient above, on BrainGate, has already died, of natural causes, and he never got the chance, to try my option.

What would it hurt?

Sounds crazy so far, sure, but besides that, it also makes perfect sense!

 

[BarryMK]

Sounds crazy so far, sure, but besides that, it also makes perfect sense!

I think perhaps we ought to have a poll on that!

 

[ColinEssex]

Six hundred and fifty million people, will have a near death experience, at some point in their life.

These people will be consumers, and these people, will want the free option I am providing,

How do you know both these statements are true?

Col

 

[BarryMK]

I tried asking that first one a while back and got ignored.

I think he's just picked a number and stated it as fact, which is a shame when the rest of the posts are so grounded in truth and well-argued.

It's like religion - you choose what you want to believe in (anything will do enter your preference here) and then it becomes a fact.


I believe a green spotted dinosaur is going to pitch a tent in your back garden. I won't say when but it will happen.

 

[Atomic Shrimp]

Sounds crazy so far, sure, but besides that, it also makes perfect sense!

In much the same way: chainsawing your own head off is a terrible idea, but apart from that, it's brilliant!

 

[ColinEssex]

I tried asking that first one a while back and got ignored.

That's why I asked again - and it'll be ignored again too I'll bet. It proves to most of us what total bo££ocks he is talking.

Col

 

[ColinEssex]

I believe a green spotted dinosaur is going to pitch a tent in your back garden. I won't say when but it will happen.

Been on the funny fags again Barry? That can give you an out-of-body experience.

Col

 

[Brianwarnock]

I believe a green spotted dinosaur is going to pitch a tent in your back garden. I won't say when but it will happen.

It will be at exactly 3:15:27 am on February 15th 2086

Brian

 

[Tim Brewer]

I think perhaps we ought to have a poll on that!

What exactly would you like to vote on?

 

[Tim Brewer]

How do you know both these statements are true?

Col

I have heard, or read, here lately. That the average, for out of body experiences, have actually gone up, but who's keeping score.

Please fill free, to find current numbers about that, if you like, but don't be surprised, it those numbers have gone up!

Please fill free to post, those results here, if you like.

The last I heard, it was 10 percent, of six, and a half billion people, on average.

On a Barbra Walters show, a few years back, they said that 80% of Americans believed, that there is some type of afterlife.

When, I had my out of body experience, if I knew, there was an option, like I this one, back then. I would of not thought twice, about finding out more about it, because I could associate with it for one.

Right now, science got funding,(Your tax dollars) to do a three year study, on people having near death experiences.

Why spend money on that, when my free idea is better, and it is Free!

I guess Free is not cool, any more.

I guess in the very small part, of this possibility, it don't stimulate President Obama enough.

They can't seam to see the pork, on this option, regardless how it turns out.

They don't see the product.

If it works, for them or not, they will still have to try my free idea. at some point anyway.

I once heard, that if there was actual aliens, that they would be so much more advance, than us.

I believe, with my free experiment. We will fix that problem as well, if there are such a thing, as aliens.

My free idea, has the potential, to answer all type of questions out there, that we thought, we would never get an answer for.

Example:

Like information from O.J.'s, after wife.

Maybe Jimmy Hoffa, is still floating around.

I totally understand, that it is hard for some to comprehend, but that still don't hide the fact, that it is possible.

It's possible, in the fact, that we can try the experiment, and it's possible, in the fact, that the experiment, will work!

What do I mean by that?

If conditions were right. My free idea, concept, theory, will work!

Are these conditions, I'm talking about, possible?

Yes!

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When they are actually, considered dead!

I can not say, for a fact, that all of them, will actually, take an interest, in this option, but why not?

Everything comes down now, to perceived pain, or perceived pleasure, and after they see. What options they have then, why not include this option?

People seam to like, having different options, to choose from.

What would it hurt?

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, with those of your own.

Tim Brewer

 

[Tim Brewer]

It's like religion - you choose what you want to believe in (anything will do enter your preference here) and then it becomes a fact.

There is a difference. My idea concept theory, is Free!

I believe a green spotted dinosaur is going to pitch a tent in your back garden. I won't say when but it will happen.

http://andershanson.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/p2231184.jpg

This is not rocket science.

We already have the machine, the patients, and a reason to try it.

Why not!

 

[Tim Brewer]

I tried asking that first one a while back and got ignored.

I think he's just picked a number and stated it as fact, which is a shame when the rest of the posts are so grounded in truth and well-argued.

" when the rest of the posts are so grounded in truth and well-argued."

What do you mean, with this statement, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[Tim Brewer]

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, with those of your own.

Where am I at?

The-

Nobody questions that, because, that is where we are at, mentally.

How much value you create to that, depends on your reality.

Because of my near death experience, I believe my option, is a good one.

I believe, if you experienced, what I experienced. You would feel the same.

I have offered, all of this, as a free option, and I have never asked, for much back in return.

I have asked this question many times, and I have yet, gotten an answer for it. Please fill free to answer it the best you can, if you like.

"What would it hurt, to try my free idea concept theory?"

I believe the best answer is Nothing, because that is the only answer, I seam to find!

We might as well, inform the BrainGate patients, to hang out, in that jar.

What would it hurt?

We can pretend like they are invisible lighting bugs, that we caught years ago!

We can assume, until the cows come home, and I can go them as well, but what about you?

What would it hurt, for you, to allow me to try my bucket list idea?

I'm sorry, I can't make it happen, as quick, as I can whip a picture of perceived value, on this thread, but if given the chance, to interact with the BrainGate patients. I believe my free option, is better, than hanging out in a nothing jar, going no place, anytime soon!

As Patrick Swayze(Ghost movie) said" We are all dieing"

They say on average, that 250,000 people die, every day on this planet.

While you are checking my statistics, i also heard, that we have about 40,000 thoughts a day, and if that is the case, then you could not morn, all these missing people, if you wanted too. there is not enough time, and even if, you figured out a way to do it, with the value, it deserves. You would not have time, for anything else.

I am selected, to what I say no too, because I must, not for myself, but for this topic.

Do I have too?

No, not if you let me try my free idea, now!

What would it hurt?

 

[Rabbie]

Perhaps if we ignore Tim he will go away. Or Am I just being hopelessly optimistic.

 

[ColinEssex]

Whats with all the commas in your posts?

His spelling is absolutely hopeless too. Still, he's obviously American, so it's no surprise he has difficulty mastering punctuation and English grammar.

Col

 

[DevastatioN]

I'm not sure why I'm getting into this rathole of a thread... but here goes:

I've read through all 14 or however many pages this is, and in all honesty I don't understand what Tim is even trying to accomplish here. Maybe it's his bad English, or maybe I'm missing the concept.

Do I believe in an afterlife? Sure, it makes complete sense when you think of things. I have my own ideas that differ from most people, and clearly differ from religion. Do ghosts and spirits exist? Definitely. Can they be communicated with? Maybe. Can we cross time planes and speak to the future? Definitely Not.

What exactly is his "method" and what is he trying to accomplish with it? He's lost me over the course of this thread, he seems all over the place.

Near-death experiences exist, and those who have spoken about theirs I truly believe. However, your body is close to death... how can you be sure that what you fully believe to have happened, really happened, and it wasn't your brain beginning to shut down and prepare yourself for death by putting you in a dream mode. And it just so happens that this "dream mode" coincides with whatever you have believed in your whole life.

I mean, if you believe all your life that when you die you're spirit is gonna get sucked out of your body and rise up to a light. I don't find it too hard to believe that your brain automatically goes into this "dream" when you really are shutting down for death. People with near-death experiences seem to always have those experiences coincide with exactly what they've always believed in. I don't ever hear someone going "I'm Muslim, but in my near-death experience I saw this <other religion ending>, and it turned my faith!"

So if someone could explain what he's trying to "prove", or this magical "method", I'd love to hear it.

 

[Atomic Shrimp]

Whats with all the commas in your posts?

I'm reading it like beat poetry. To the extent I'm reading it at all.

Tim's posts remind me of a style that's not uncommon on some of the creation/evolution debate boards that exist out there - just rambling streams of semi-consciousness, interspersed with images.

Tim - it comes down to this: - if this device has any scientific merit, you should demonstrate it conclusively to some people who are properly equipped to analyse your results (psychologists, neurologists, etc).

Just burbling on and on about it on message boards is going to get you precisely nowhere. When you have some hard results, let's see them. Your highly optimistic speculation and wishful thinking is charming, but useless.

 

[Tim Brewer]

I'm not sure why I'm getting into this rathole of a thread... but here goes:

I've read through all 14 or however many pages this is, and in all honesty I don't understand what Tim is even trying to accomplish here. Maybe it's his bad English, or maybe I'm missing the concept.

Do I believe in an afterlife? Sure, it makes complete sense when you think of things. I have my own ideas that differ from most people, and clearly differ from religion. Do ghosts and spirits exist? Definitely. Can they be communicated with? Maybe. Can we cross time planes and speak to the future? Definitely Not.

What exactly is his "method" and what is he trying to accomplish with it? He's lost me over the course of this thread, he seems all over the place.

Near-death experiences exist, and those who have spoken about theirs I truly believe. However, your body is close to death... how can you be sure that what you fully believe to have happened, really happened, and it wasn't your brain beginning to shut down and prepare yourself for death by putting you in a dream mode. And it just so happens that this "dream mode" coincides with whatever you have believed in your whole life.

I mean, if you believe all your life that when you die you're spirit is gonna get sucked out of your body and rise up to a light. I don't find it too hard to believe that your brain automatically goes into this "dream" when you really are shutting down for death. People with near-death experiences seem to always have those experiences coincide with exactly what they've always believed in. I don't ever hear someone going "I'm Muslim, but in my near-death experience I saw this <other religion ending>, and it turned my faith!"

So if someone could explain what he's trying to "prove", or this magical "method", I'd love to hear it.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, with those of your own.

In 2005, a company out of Boston, Mass. Started using a machine called BrainGate, that has the ability to read your thoughts.

My goal is to take that same technology, and follow it through, to communicate with potential out of body afterlife.

What is BrainGate actually doing?
It's measuring friction of thought, from the neurons firing, in the brain.

Here is a picture, of the first successful BrainGate patient.

Quick review:

You have now seen the machine,

You have now seen, an actual BrainGate patient, of the BrainGate machine.

Everything after that, is just free cross training follow through.

Please fill free to comment,

Tim Brewer