The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities

[BarryMK]

Tim,

How is the crusade going?

Are you having:

1) Less success than you hoped for

2) The success you expected or

3) More success than you expected

Would that be actual success or perceived success?

 

[Atomic Shrimp]

The goal is not to attach a device to a human, but to allow the consciouness, a chance to go to the device.

BrainGate measures friction of thought, and it don't care how it gets that information.

Are you sure you even care whether it gets that information. or just makes it up?

I've now read this thread from start to finish and looked at your website. I still don't really know what you're talking about.

 

[Rabbie]

I can exclusively reveal that Tim Brewer is a figment of my warped imagination. These things sometimes leak out on to the astral plane and can be very hard to remove. Please accept my apologies

More leaks I'm afraid. Must be the recent snowy weather

 

[speakers_86]

Who did this?

Found it!

Wired.com

 

[ColinEssex]

I've now read this thread from start to finish and looked at your website. I still don't really know what you're talking about.

Tim is American, so English is not his first language, therefore there will be a language barrier.

Apart from that, Americans don't use their mouths to speak out of.

Col

 

[Rich]

I had an "out of body" experience once, then found it so difficult to get back in I've never tried it again..................

 

[speakers_86]

Bizarre!

All done by reputable people under (apparently) strict conditions and yet I still remain skeptical. I guess that may be a character flaw on my part - if something seems illogical to me and I don't see it for myself, I don't trust it.

Its shocking the first time you hear this. But I think it makes sense. The idea of a mind or consciencess is merely an illusion. There is no mind, only a brain, which simulates conscieness. Of course, we still dont understand how that works. "You" are not actually "you". Our thoughts are just the firing or neurons in our brain. So if our perceptions change, then our brain is easily tricked.

Maybe this can explain why when a person dies and comes back, they so readily believe that they say heaven, or whatever it may be. When a person is dieing, I'm sure there are all kinds of odd and unusual levels of chemicals in the brain. The brain will interpret these chemicals, and viola!, your brain is now simulating heaven (or hell). Occum's Razor says this must be true. This is much more likely than there being a higher power and 72 virgins, or whatever you believe. Nevermind that we can never test to see if God is true. On the otherhand, we may be able to (someday) determine if the storm of chemical activity during death could result in visions.

 

[Tim Brewer]

Its shocking the first time you hear this. But I think it makes sense. The idea of a mind or consciencess is merely an illusion. There is no mind, only a brain, which simulates conscieness. Of course, we still dont understand how that works. "You" are not actually "you". Our thoughts are just the firing or neurons in our brain. So if our perceptions change, then our brain is easily tricked.

Maybe this can explain why when a person dies and comes back, they so readily believe that they say heaven, or whatever it may be. When a person is dieing, I'm sure there are all kinds of odd and unusual levels of chemicals in the brain. The brain will interpret these chemicals, and viola!, your brain is now simulating heaven (or hell). Occum's Razor says this must be true. This is much more likely than there being a higher power and 72 virgins, or whatever you believe. Nevermind that we can never test to see if God is true. On the otherhand, we may be able to (someday) determine if the storm of chemical activity during death could result in visions.

Never underestimate your inner thoughts.

It has the ability to take you out of pain, and into pleasure everyday, even if you don't notice.

Six Hundred and fifty million people, on average, will have an unexpected out of body experience, at some point in their life, and that is why your inner thoughts believe it is possible, because they take us there, and we did nothing wrong.

Today I am fifty years old, and all I had to do, was go along for the ride.

As a society, we are real good at seeing a problem, and fixing it, but this problem can not be seen. You just have to believe it is there, and allow it the chance to work it self out, if there is anything there.

It's called free following through Hope!

We could spend another fifty years guessing if it is possible or not, or we can just do my free idea, now!

I'm not getting any younger, how about you?

What would it hurt?

Now Ii could of kept all this crazy information to myself, but what if there is something to it?

My free follow through cross training idea concept, breaks no laws of science. It actually works great in it.

A Pandora's box, that has the math, to back it up.

My idea is a constance to science, and it is the missing piece of life.

We now can measure thought, and we are getting better at it everyday.

That right, can not make my free idea concept wrong.

Regardless if you are an atheist, or a religious person, the math for it's possibility, is still good, based on time, and our ability to evolve, and at what stage of involvement, we are at!

Can we evolve out of our body, after death?

Have we already evolved out of body, after death of the body?

Why look for the needle in the hay stack, when we can train the needle, to come find us?

If I said, I would give you a million dollars, if you would contact me, when you reached the top of Mount everest.

Would it not be in my best interest, to make sure, you actually did it?

What if I had already set up a BrainGate machine there, and asked you to call me through that machine with your thoughts.

What if you decided to take me up on the challenge, and you actually did it, as a human.

If conditions were right, and we could do that. We do have the ability, as a country to make that happen, but we have never given you the chance to do it, as an afterlife person.

What would it hurt to try this free idea follow through, cross training idea concept, besides how bad I post, and how long the topic is?

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, on a day, I am suppose to be wiser.

Tim Brewer

 

[BarryMK]

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, on a day, I am suppose to be wiser.
Tim Brewer

Well after reading through that lot and coming to this last sentence I'm sure we're all glad that you're feeling the wiser....

Tell me - you don't work in a strategy and communications department do you?

 

[ColinEssex]

Tell me - you don't work in a strategy and communications department do you?

Well there are some clues here.

Firstly Tim is American, secondly, Ohio is where the spaceships land isn't it? You know, the small town where people live in caravans and drive a 1950's pick-up truck.

I think this whole thing is a bit far fetched (as are most American thoughts)

Col

 

[Tim Brewer]

Well after reading through that lot and coming to this last sentence I'm sure we're all glad that you're feeling the wiser....

Tell me - you don't work in a strategy and communications department do you?

Good question BarryMK,

Before this bucket list topic, I was Vice President of Operations, for a financial company.

Now, during the day, I am managing a pizza location.
Work that I don't have to take home with me.

Why do you ask?

 

[BarryMK]

Good question BarryMK,

Before this bucket list topic, I was Vice President of Operations, for a financial company.

Now, during the day, I am managing a pizza location.
Work that I don't have to take home with me.

Why do you ask?

This may appear obscure to you but I think if you have to ask why, you rather prove the point I was making. Thankyou for your answer but my question was actually rhetorical, not literal and was heavily ironic. I appreciate that with the exception of a few notable posters on this forum irony can tend to go over the head of our American cousins. But to explain further - every strategy and comms type department (Col will probably claim them to be an American import over here!) I have dealt with had an inbuilt inability to communicate with anything approaching clarity. You'll have to draw your own conclusions on that one Tim, anyhow if your theories make you happy......

 

[dan-cat]

I appreciate that with the exception of a few notable posters on this forum irony can tend to go over the head of our American cousins.

That thar be fightin' talk!

 

[BarryMK]

That thar be fightin' talk!

Naturally you'd be one of the notable exceptions

 

[ColinEssex]

Naturally you'd be one of the notable exceptions

That's a good one Barry.

Col

 

[Tim Brewer]

This may appear obscure to you but I think if you have to ask why, you rather prove the point I was making. Thankyou for your answer but my question was actually rhetorical, not literal and was heavily ironic. I appreciate that with the exception of a few notable posters on this forum irony can tend to go over the head of our American cousins. But to explain further - every strategy and comms type department (Col will probably claim them to be an American import over here!) I have dealt with had an inbuilt inability to communicate with anything approaching clarity. You'll have to draw your own conclusions on that one Tim, anyhow if your theories make you happy......

Dear Barry,

My goal is to make you happy, not to play games, with your CSI assuming.

If the conditions were right, you could no more stop from having an out of body experience, than any one else, that has ever had one, or could have on e in the future, and regardless how well I have focused on the home work to this topic, and not to my grammor, is all in your thoughts, and what ever else you precieve as reality.

Would stay longer, but my one son, Simon Brewer, is in a Tornado movie on the weather channel tonight.

besides, I am getting tired.

 

[BarryMK]

Dear Barry,

If the conditions were right, you could no more stop from having an out of body experience, than any one else, that has ever had one, or could have on e in the future, and regardless how well I have focused on the home work to this topic, and not to my grammor, is all in your thoughts, and what ever else you precieve as reality.

So as long as I believe something - it exists?

Sorry Tim but it seems to me that you have as much idea of how many beans make five existentially as I do, which is not saying a lot.....

 

[Tim Brewer]

So as long as I believe something - it exists?

Sorry Tim but it seems to me that you have as much idea of how many beans make five existentially as I do, which is not saying a lot.....

You are right. I am not focused on five or beans, at this time.

Could you do what I can do with my topic?

Yes, if you wanted too!

We are equal on ability, but after that, it's tit for tat, on experience.

I can tell you what I know, and you can tell me what you know, as we try my free idea concept.

It only takes two of you to make a difference.

The one who helps to figure out what we need to do right now, to make it happen, and the one who tries it, and makes it work.

It seams as though our inner thoughts, are focused on being, where they need to be, when the time comes.

You would think, since the whole thing is already in place, and we can do it for free, that maybe we should do that.

Why?

our inner thoughts is trying to make it happen.

I notice that, like observation in science,

and you report it!

We try it, because it is the least we can do, for our inner thoughts, that always tries to flight out of our body, toward an anti matter, that makes up our inner thought.

We are inside something, and that something, left poker hand clues, during near death out of body situations.

Was my out of body experience special, to other out of body experiences?

No, I just learned from mine, and thought you would like to know.

Please continue........

 

[Rabbie]

Yawn yawn zzzzzzzzzz

 

[ColinEssex]

Yawn yawn zzzzzzzzzz

I agree. Oh, hang on - there's some paint drying, I'm off to watch that. It's much more fun. Personally, I think Tim's losing it.

Col