The Department of Positive Out of Body Possibilities

[Atomic Shrimp]

Leave

No! Stay - this is entertainment.

 

[Atomic Shrimp]

Would you rather see me as the President of The United States of America, or O.J Simpson?

I must admit, I don't really understand the American political system. Are those the only choices?
Is there a box labelled 'None of the above'?

 

[Rich]

No! Stay - this is entertainment.

And a cure for insomnia

 

[BarryMK]

Tim Brewer unmasked

I have it! Tim is actually a computer, fiendishly programmed by a mad professor, to generate and upload random streams of verbal garbage to any forum nuts enough not to block it until it reaches its target goal of 1000 posts. If we all stop responding it (TB) will still carry on posting this mindless crap until it reaches 1000 or its battery runs out. (We can only hope)

Still I suppose it gives we ordinary nutters the opportunity to have a dialog with the genuinely insane............

ps
Tim Brewer for President - we've already been there - but at the time he called himself Bush

 

[rainman89]

Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

I have it! Tim is actually a computer, fiendishly programmed by a mad professor, to generate and upload random streams of verbal garbage to any forum nuts enough not to block it until it reaches its target goal of 1000 posts. If we all stop responding it (TB) will still carry on posting this mindless crap until it reaches 1000 or its battery runs out. (We can only hope)

Still I suppose it gives we ordinary nutters the opportunity to have a dialog with the genuinely insane............

ps
Tim Brewer for President - we've already been there - but at the time he called himself Bush

You know i thought... How cool would it be if Tim Brewer was actually a spam bot that had the ability to reply to us with our posts, but just spew random garbage out in an attempt to create some sort of logical answer...

 

[BarryMK]

Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

You know i thought... How cool would it be if Tim Brewer was actually a spam bot that had the ability to reply to us with our posts, but just spew random garbage out in an attempt to create some sort of logical answer...

Logical answer? Here? It must be a robot.

 

[Tim'sfriendMartin]

Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

Greetings fellow posters of World Access Forum, please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Martin and I am Tim484848's internet friend from the 700WLW talk forum. Sometime ago Tim484848 told me about his efforts on the World Access Forum and as a result, I have been reading along as to keep up to date on things. For me, my first exposure to Tim484848 was when he posted a thread to the 700WLW talk forum on the Darryl Parks board entitled “Pain vs Pleasure”, or something to that effect. Anyways, Tim484848's position was that we can better understand the human condition by visualizing the individual's struggle to attain pleasure as being not unlike a pink elephant teeter totter.

Tim484848's position on this important topic was that as events happen to us in our daily lives, we are forced to choose between a series of options. When we choose options that are of a benefit to us, that action can be illustrated by adding a weight to the “pleasure” side of the teeter totter. Conversely, as we choose options that result in a negative consequences, that in turn, adds a weight to the “pain” side of the teeter totter. By this measure we able to conceptualize one's “pain vs. pleasure” quotient. Tim484848 proposes that an optimal outcome will result in maximizing one's pleasure and therefore one should stack as many weights onto the pleasure side of the pink elephant teeter totter that is possible.

While I do agree that seeking to maximize one's pleasure quotient is an admirable and worthwhile goal, I do not agree that only seeking pleasure is necessarily the best option. I believe that by postponing pleasure, one is able to more fully appreciate and understand the nature of pleasure and therefore one will be in a better position to use his free will decision making skills to maximize the potential of his individual circumstances. And so our conversation began......

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In order to expound upon my position I suggested that one's individual existence might be better conceptualized by imagining a man in a boat on the open waters. I suggested something to the effect that an infant would have the equivalent of a row boat with really clunky oars that are essentially without function. The lack of control the infant has over his environment can be envisioned as being rough and dangerous waters when the infant's needs are not met and calm seas, a sunny sky and cool breezes when the infant experiences the comfort of having his needs met. As the infant grows, he develops a greater degree of control over his surroundings and as a result begins to gain proficiency with the oars and is able to move around at will. Since the child still relies primarily on a caregiver for basic survival needs, his sphere of influence is quite small, as responsibilities and freedom are earned, range and ease of movement is facilitated. I suggested that as life skills are gained, one's sailing vessel is to be “upgraded” as well. A metal hauled ship is able to withstand greater forces than a wooden ship might hope to. Nuclear reactors don't need refueling like diesel motors do. A wise, older man is better able to meet the adversities than is an adolescent with little life experience.​

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We discussed this topic at great length and in the end, Tim484848 agreed that my analogy was quite good, and was in fact, better suited for charting the individual points in one's life where consequential changes in one's fortune specifically occurred. The teeter totter, after all, only measures pain vs. pleasure. That is looking at things in only two dimensions, the boat on open waters not only measures left, right, front, and back, but also up and down, all the while making further distinctions by taking account of the weather at the time. I also suggested that if one were to die in a completely out of the blue, act of GOD sort of way, that could be described as motoring over a spot in the ocean where a crevice has opened up and released a large quantity of poisonous gas into the surrounding waters. This sort of occurrence in real life would undoubtedly have the effect of suffocating the captain of the ship while causing the vessel itself to plummet to the ocean floor because of the lack of surface tension in the surrounding waters.​

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As a result of getting along so well, Tim484848 and I have had many other conversations, including conversations that speak to the Free Idea and Afterlife Communication Concept. Since Tim484848 suggested in an earlier post that I can better explain some of the tangible components of the plan, I thought I'd just log in and share some of my insights on everything with everyone. After all, with over 35 pages of content on this subject, World Access Forum's interest in the subject matter is plainly evident!​

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When thinking about Tim484848's theory, it all seems quite simple to me....Not being familiar with the Braingate machine or energy orbs myself, I will withhold comment on those things, but when you think about science and man's understanding of it, we actually know very little about the Universe as a whole. Although man may fancy himself as being quite proficient with regard to controlling and understanding the world around him, there is much that lies beneath the surface that goes unexplored and unexplained. For instance, dark matter, weird “laws of physics” stuff like super conductivity, and the broad spectrum of paranormal sciences, such as unexplainable freak occurrences, the kind that might happen as a result of near death experiences. Indeed, there is much without explanation, but based upon my limited knowledge regarding the nature of matter, I can not disprove Tim484848's “friction theory”as having merit.​

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Science, after all, tells us that all matter is composed of atoms, atoms that do not physically touch. These atoms then assemble themselves so that molecules are made. In mass, we can observe the physical properties of those molecules as tangible items in our physical world, but when it comes right down to it, none of those molecules are actually solid. The Universe is actually just a big soupy mass made up of groupings of atoms that exert varying densities. On the periodic table we can measure how heavy each of the atoms are, and based upon their placement in the table, we can physically manipulate molecules using exerting the property of valence and actually swap out one atom for another! When it comes right down to it though, all of those atoms are made up of still smaller building blocks! At some point, as our understanding of the natural world evolves, we may find that all matter is, in fact, nothing but energy itself.....and if this is indeed the case, it may also be possible to construct a system so that science can measure and record the physical properties of that energy as well. By gaining the ability to measure, science also gains the ability to observe and graph the fluctuations in those measurements. As best as I am able to tell, it is along these lines that Tim484848 draws his inspiration.​

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When I have spoken to Tim484848 about what he might hope to find by studying the nature of matter in such a novel way, he has said something to the effect of only being motivated by the goal of lending a helping hand towards the betterment of all mankind and that he seeks no glory from any of the advancements that will surely result from these efforts. Helping his fellow man is his most important and only goal. What a compassionate and selfless person Tim484848 must surely be! It is for these reasons that I fully support his efforts in this regard.​

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[Atomic Shrimp]

Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

What a compassionate and selfless person Tim484848 must surely be! It is for these reasons that I fully support his efforts in this regard.

That's great - we'll just leave it to you to introduce him to Bill Gates and/or Stephen Hawking...

 

[Tim'sfriendMartin]

Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

You can't be anything to do with Tim - your posts are too brief and succinct.

Thank you for your kind words Alc....I find that when it comes to sharing one's thoughts with others, clear and concise sentence structure is of tantamount importance.

That's great - we'll just leave it to you to introduce him to Bill Gates and/or Stephen Hawking...

On the 700WLW forum Tim484848 was mostly interested in contacting and sharing his ideas with Patrick Swaze. I tried to stress to him the importance of letting famous people find out about cutting edge ideas "on their own" because human nature dictates that when a person tells someone how much they will benefit from something, the individual being told will naturally take the opposing viewpoint because people like to think of good ideas by themselves.

When we look at the root of the matter, it can be said that the key to successful selling, whether it be a product or an idea, is to let the buyer think of the benefits "on their own". A successful salesman will seek to shed light on the circumstances that will necessitate the use of the product or idea in such a way as to allow the buyer to incorporate the information in a fun and lighthearted manner. By following this approach, the force of human nature can be used as an asset, rather than an obstacle that must be overcome.

 

[BarryMK]

Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

On the 700WLW forum Tim484848 was mostly interested in contacting and sharing his ideas with Patrick Swaze. I tried to stress to him the importance of letting famous people find out about cutting edge ideas "on their own" because human nature dictates that when a person tells someone how much they will benefit from something, the individual being told will naturally take the opposing viewpoint because people like to think of good ideas by themselves.

And he took so much note of your admirable suggestion that he turned his attention to that little known nonentity Mr W Gates esq.

 

[Atomic Shrimp]

Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

When thinking about Tim484848's theory, it all seems quite simple to me....Not being familiar with the Braingate machine or energy orbs myself, I will withhold comment on those things, but when you think about science and man's understanding of it, we actually know very little about the Universe as a whole. Although man may fancy himself as being quite proficient with regard to controlling and understanding the world around him, there is much that lies beneath the surface that goes unexplored and unexplained. For instance, dark matter, weird “laws of physics” stuff like super conductivity, and the broad spectrum of paranormal sciences, such as unexplainable freak occurrences, the kind that might happen as a result of near death experiences. Indeed, there is much without explanation, but based upon my limited knowledge regarding the nature of matter, I can not disprove Tim484848's “friction theory”as having merit.

Science, after all, tells us that all matter is composed of atoms, atoms that do not physically touch. These atoms then assemble themselves so that molecules are made. In mass, we can observe the physical properties of those molecules as tangible items in our physical world, but when it comes right down to it, none of those molecules are actually solid. The Universe is actually just a big soupy mass made up of groupings of atoms that exert varying densities. On the periodic table we can measure how heavy each of the atoms are, and based upon their placement in the table, we can physically manipulate molecules using exerting the property of valence and actually swap out one atom for another! When it comes right down to it though, all of those atoms are made up of still smaller building blocks! At some point, as our understanding of the natural world evolves, we may find that all matter is, in fact, nothing but energy itself.....and if this is indeed the case, it may also be possible to construct a system so that science can measure and record the physical properties of that energy as well. By gaining the ability to measure, science also gains the ability to observe and graph the fluctuations in those measurements. As best as I am able to tell, it is along these lines that Tim484848 draws his inspiration.

So, let's see if I can do this...

There are some things that science does not yet fully understand

...Therefore...

One might actually be equal to zero. There's no way to rule it out.

 

[Tim'sfriendMartin]

Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

So, let's see if I can do this...

There are some things that science does not yet fully understand

...Therefore...

One might actually be equal to zero. There's no way to rule it out.

Certainly not....if there is one thing that is unchangeable and constant, it is the laws of physics. Of course, man's understanding of these laws is somewhat limited and therefore is somewhat lacking with regard to accurate prediction of such things such as the exact position of an electron at any given point in time, but I am confident that as our technical prowess continues to grow, that which is unknown and mysterious will become ordinary and predictable.

Such is the way of scientific progress....

 

[Rich]

Oh sh*t, now there's two of them, who can read my thoughts just now

 

[Rich]

Are you sure?

Well I suppose it could by a split personallity sending me negative waves

 

[rainman89]

Are you sure?

I dont know, the lack of commas in timsfriendmartin's posts is confusing me....

How am I supposed to read them like a song?

 

[Rich]

Just for argument's sake, what would be the minimum time required to submit a post under one ID, log out, log in under another ID, and submit a second post agreeing with the first?

10 seconds, depending on their internet connection speed

 

[rainman89]

I humbly suggest that there can't be too many posters out there who type posts of this kind.

Just for argument's sake, what would be the minimum time required to submit a post under one ID, log out, log in under another ID, and submit a second post agreeing with the first?

Of their length????

10 days haha

 

[Tim'sfriendMartin]

I find it quite hard to comprehend why people seem to think that Tim484848 and I are the same person. I can assure you that this is not the case, but I also don't mind admitting that I am quite flattered by the accusation. Personally, I find Tim484848's posts to be of the highest quality even if I do not agree with all of their substance.

For starters, I do not believe in the existence of ghosts. I instead, believe that the universe is actually a big, living, breathing organism and that we are merely cells in that organism. It's like how our autonomic nervous system knows whats going on in all of our cells, but the cells in our thumb might not know what the cells in our toes. Our conscious mind knows our thoughts and directs our actions, but knows nothing of the automatic nervous system. Essentially my worldview is based on GOD as being the autonomic nervous system of the universe and that GOD's personal interactions with us is a manifestation of the GOD consciousness. I call this theory "The One GOD Theory of Universal Creationism". I've been meaning to type up a manifesto of sorts about this subject for quite some time now, but I'm pretty busy with other projects so that will have to be put on the back burner for a while.

Also, instead of giving Afterlife the possibility of communication, my main topic of concern is that of drug prohibition and its unconstitutional nature.

To loosely quote Tim484848......ending the drug war...what would that hurt?

 

[Rich]

Also, instead of giving Afterlife the possibility of communication, my main topic of concern is that of drug prohibition and its unconstitutional nature.

Why not join the Police force then?

 

[Tim'sfriendMartin]

To be fair, it's not people but one person. Me.
I'm leaning in that sceptical direction because:
1) your posts thus far are extremely long, when compared to the average post on this forum.
2) The subject matter is, how can I put it, unusual. Bordering on the far-fetched, to say the least
3) Tim pretty much stopped posting just before you started.
4) Comments like this "Personally, I find Tim484848's posts to be of the highest quality". Everyone else seems to hold a somewhat differing opinion.

1.) As to my posting style, I try to go straight to the point of the matter, and sometimes it takes a few more words to do this. I believe that any inconveniences that may be experienced due to post size are more than balanced out by the content contained within.

2.) Now this I can agree with. The concept of using a machine that "reads minds" to communicate with the dead is very unusual. However, just because people don't talk about a subject very often does not mean that it is not important. For instance, back in 1933 the United States Congress ratified the 21st Amendment which ended alcohol prohibition. This resulted in a marked decrease in Part One Crimes because the money that was associated with black market alcohol was taken out of the hands of organized crime and placed securely in the coffers of the Federal Government. Constitutional Law may be an unusual topic of discussion, but remember... the people that we are fighting in the War on Terror are largely financed by the enormous amounts of money that are being generated as a result of the black market drug trade.

3.) Tim484848 will return. He disappeared on the 700WLW forum because his computer went on the fritz. I can't imagine he would invite me over to the World Access Forum and then just up and leave.

4.) I am basing my opinion of Tim484848 on the conversations we have had that were strongly rooted in the realm of logic and reason. I realize his sentence structure may be a little off kilter, however, his message is right on target. I also greatly admire his "stick to itevness" with regard to spreading the word on his important in interesting topic of the scientific understanding in the realm of the unknown.