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Perhaps you can answer a question that's been puzzling more than a few people here - why will he rarely if ever give a straight answer to a question? Preferring, instead, to come back with things like 'What would that cost?'

I think what Tim484848 is saying is...."What is the cost of a thought?" Thoughts are free and not only that, when we look at things from new perspectives it is like exercising our brains, which is a healthy thing to do.

I think it all boils down to if Tim484848 were to just spell everything out it so that his thoughts were conveyed in a matter of fact, point by point sort of way, it would be like he was doing all of the work and the reader wouldn't fully appreciate the wisdom they will have gained. Also, look what happened to Galileo when he started up with the whole "The Earth revolves around the Sun" thing and all the trouble that got him into. Perhaps Tim484848 is purposefully limiting himself and the information he releases so that he doesn't run into that sort of thing. Tim484848 is like a marathon runner, his eye is on the goal and he is in it for the long haul, one foot in front of the other, that's how the successful people reach the finish line and Tim484848 is no different in that regard!

It's like this, what if one day your mum gives you $100,000,000,000.00, sure you won't have any worries, but are you really going to know the value of a dollar and all the hard work it takes to earn that? Probably not! Tim484848 doesn't want you to not get your money's worth out of his Free Idea Concept. By investing your time and energy into the wisdom of Tim484848's postings, you are in effect, investing in yourself and that is a good thing. If you only remember one thing, remember that Tim484848 wants what is best for you and by incorporating his thoughts into your own psyche you will doing a good thing for both yourself and for the ones you love.


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Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

Greetings fellow posters of World Access Forum, please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Martin and I am Tim484848's internet friend from the 700WLW talk forum.
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What's this Tim484848 crap. This thread had a resident bore by name of Tim Brewer. Is he related to you and Tim484848? Time for a full expanation methinks.
 
Why not join the Police force then?:rolleyes:

The police are in the executive branch. Their job is to enforce the laws that the legislative branch enacts. The judicial branch is supposed to interpret the law and decide if they are in keeping with the United States Constitution.

This is where the problem is occurring.

For instance, there is crime. The police officers have to deal with the criminals and they can see where the "loop holes" are at that allow the criminals to skirt the law. They go to the legislative branch and get a new law made that is meant to patch the hole in the old law so that they can more effectively fight the criminals. Seems logical...

The problem is that nothing is being done to meet the demand part of the equation. With regard to drugs, if people want them, there will be someone who is willing to risk incarceration so that they can sell them and collect the money. No matter how harsh the penalties may be, there will be people who both want to use and sell drugs. The more people that get locked up into prisons = the more money the government has to spend to take care of them. The problem does not go away and because of increased stresses associated with the prohibition, the criminals up the ante and escalate their resistance to it. This is what is happening down in Mexico right now.

This would seem to be a never ending cycle that will eventually spiral down into the depths of societal collapse. Look at how many laws Rome had before the Barbarians had their way with that culture.

The key is understanding that law is meant to serve society. One of the key components in civilization is the right to liberty and freedom to worship in any way one sees fit. Did you know that the very oldest religions on earth are the shamanic and aboriginal religions? Drug use to them is an inherent and integral part of their communing with GOD. In these societies there is no word for "mental illness". In our modern day society, the government seeks to repress man's desire for liberty and squash his ability to explore his subconsciousness and man/GOD relationship. This causes a great deal of stress and inner turmoil. The ones that obey are missing an experience that dates back to the beginning of time and the ones that disobey the law and partake in that experience are forced to use more potent and potentially dangerous drugs because the illegality of the drugs dictate that they can be more easily concealed.

During alcohol prohibition people drank way more whiskey than they did beer because you could haul more whiskey in the back of a car than you could beer. After prohibition, people mostly choose to drink beer.

Speaking of beer.....I love me some Samuel Smiths! You guys in England sure are lucky to have such yummy and high quality beers and such old breweries.

Anyways, drugs are no different than alcohol. If people have the choice between opium and heroin, they will probably choose opium. If all they can get is heroin, then they have to take what they can get or do without.
 
TimsfriendMartin - Tim Brewer Different names same verbal incontinence:D
 
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What's this Tim484848 crap. This thread had a resident bore by name of Tim Brewer. Is he related to you and Tim484848? Time for a full expanation methinks.


Tim Brewer is Tim484848. I am not related to him other than we both post on another message board located in Cincinnati Ohio called www.700wlwforum.com.

It is an AM radio chat forum for the people that listen to the radio station so they can log on and discuss the goings on there. One day, Tim484848 showed up and started posting. Like here, the bulk majority of posters took an adversarial position to his message. I was no different, until I engaged him in a dialogue on what he was posting about...Pain vs. Pleasure.

As a result of our logic based discourse I became a big, big fan of Tim484848. It is my personal experience that when you engage Tim484848 in such a way as to logically reinforce your every statement, he really responds in like and the brilliance behind his lighthearted posts really begins to shine through.

I wouldn't know anything about this forum if it were not for him specifically mentioning it to me. I don't know anything about computers although I do need to learn about them. I'm an amateur techno music producer and I need to learn how to get my music from my multitrack recorder into my laptop so I can convert it to an MP3 and share it with others. My first step is going to be to buy a soundcard with a plug that will accept an RCA cable or an adapter that will plug into an RCA plug.

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Well it looks like it's almost 4:30.....time to go home from work.

Everybody have a great weekend, talk to you again next week.


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Just for argument's sake, what would be the minimum time required to submit a post under one ID, log out, log in under another ID, and submit a second post agreeing with the first?

Quite possible to post them almost simultaneously - log in and compose from different browsers on the same machine (or different machines in the same room, etc).
 
No! Stay - this is entertainment.

"No! Stay This is entertainment."
Mike Gurman

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My back up plan is safer, cheaper, and more entertaining than duck tape!
 
Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

I have it! Tim is actually a computer, fiendishly programmed by a mad professor, to generate and upload random streams of verbal garbage to any forum nuts enough not to block it until it reaches its target goal of 1000 posts. If we all stop responding it (TB) will still carry on posting this mindless crap until it reaches 1000 or its battery runs out. (We can only hope):rolleyes:

Still I suppose it gives we ordinary nutters the opportunity to have a dialog with the genuinely insane............

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Tim Brewer for President - we've already been there - but at the time he called himself Bush

My free idea concept ends wars, not start them!

My free idea concept helps the world's economy, not hurt it!

I have only been in Texas one time, and that was at the airport.

As far as me being insane. I offered to be on the Dr.Phil show, but

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he was too busy being crazy with somebody else!
 
Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

You know I thought... How cool would it be if Tim Brewer was actually a spam bot that had the ability to reply to us with our posts, but just spew random garbage out in an attempt to create some sort of logical answer...


Why don't I just do that as a human?

What is a spam bot?

Sounds like one site called "Stumble Upon"!

It must work, because I stumbled upon it one day.
 
Re: Tim Brewer unmasked

Greetings fellow posters of World Access Forum, please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Martin and I am Tim484848's internet friend from the 700WLW talk forum. Sometime ago Tim484848 told me about his efforts on the World Access Forum and as a result, I have been reading along as to keep up to date on things. For me, my first exposure to Tim484848 was when he posted a thread to the 700WLW talk forum on the Darryl Parks board entitled “Pain vs Pleasure”, or something to that effect. Anyways, Tim484848's position was that we can better understand the human condition by visualizing the individual's struggle to attain pleasure as being not unlike a pink elephant teeter totter.

Tim484848's position on this important topic was that as events happen to us in our daily lives, we are forced to choose between a series of options. When we choose options that are of a benefit to us, that action can be illustrated by adding a weight to the “pleasure” side of the teeter totter. Conversely, as we choose options that result in a negative consequences, that in turn, adds a weight to the “pain” side of the teeter totter. By this measure we able to conceptualize one's “pain vs. pleasure” quotient. Tim484848 proposes that an optimal outcome will result in maximizing one's pleasure and therefore one should stack as many weights onto the pleasure side of the pink elephant teeter totter that is possible.

While I do agree that seeking to maximize one's pleasure quotient is an admirable and worthwhile goal, I do not agree that only seeking pleasure is necessarily the best option. I believe that by postponing pleasure, one is able to more fully appreciate and understand the nature of pleasure and therefore one will be in a better position to use his free will decision making skills to maximize the potential of his individual circumstances. And so our conversation began......



In order to expound upon my position I suggested that one's individual existence might be better conceptualized by imagining a man in a boat on the open waters. I suggested something to the effect that an infant would have the equivalent of a row boat with really clunky oars that are essentially without function. The lack of control the infant has over his environment can be envisioned as being rough and dangerous waters when the infant's needs are not met and calm seas, a sunny sky and cool breezes when the infant experiences the comfort of having his needs met. As the infant grows, he develops a greater degree of control over his surroundings and as a result begins to gain proficiency with the oars and is able to move around at will. Since the child still relies primarily on a caregiver for basic survival needs, his sphere of influence is quite small, as responsibilities and freedom are earned, range and ease of movement is facilitated. I suggested that as life skills are gained, one's sailing vessel is to be “upgraded” as well. A metal hauled ship is able to withstand greater forces than a wooden ship might hope to. Nuclear reactors don't need refueling like diesel motors do. A wise, older man is better able to meet the adversities than is an adolescent with little life experience.​




We discussed this topic at great length and in the end, Tim484848 agreed that my analogy was quite good, and was in fact, better suited for charting the individual points in one's life where consequential changes in one's fortune specifically occurred. The teeter totter, after all, only measures pain vs. pleasure. That is looking at things in only two dimensions, the boat on open waters not only measures left, right, front, and back, but also up and down, all the while making further distinctions by taking account of the weather at the time. I also suggested that if one were to die in a completely out of the blue, act of GOD sort of way, that could be described as motoring over a spot in the ocean where a crevice has opened up and released a large quantity of poisonous gas into the surrounding waters. This sort of occurrence in real life would undoubtedly have the effect of suffocating the captain of the ship while causing the vessel itself to plummet to the ocean floor because of the lack of surface tension in the surrounding waters.​




As a result of getting along so well, Tim484848 and I have had many other conversations, including conversations that speak to the Free Idea and Afterlife Communication Concept. Since Tim484848 suggested in an earlier post that I can better explain some of the tangible components of the plan, I thought I'd just log in and share some of my insights on everything with everyone. After all, with over 35 pages of content on this subject, World Access Forum's interest in the subject matter is plainly evident!​




When thinking about Tim484848's theory, it all seems quite simple to me....Not being familiar with the Braingate machine or energy orbs myself, I will withhold comment on those things, but when you think about science and man's understanding of it, we actually know very little about the Universe as a whole. Although man may fancy himself as being quite proficient with regard to controlling and understanding the world around him, there is much that lies beneath the surface that goes unexplored and unexplained. For instance, dark matter, weird “laws of physics” stuff like super conductivity, and the broad spectrum of paranormal sciences, such as unexplainable freak occurrences, the kind that might happen as a result of near death experiences. Indeed, there is much without explanation, but based upon my limited knowledge regarding the nature of matter, I can not disprove Tim484848's “friction theory”as having merit.​




Science, after all, tells us that all matter is composed of atoms, atoms that do not physically touch. These atoms then assemble themselves so that molecules are made. In mass, we can observe the physical properties of those molecules as tangible items in our physical world, but when it comes right down to it, none of those molecules are actually solid. The Universe is actually just a big soupy mass made up of groupings of atoms that exert varying densities. On the periodic table we can measure how heavy each of the atoms are, and based upon their placement in the table, we can physically manipulate molecules using exerting the property of valence and actually swap out one atom for another! When it comes right down to it though, all of those atoms are made up of still smaller building blocks! At some point, as our understanding of the natural world evolves, we may find that all matter is, in fact, nothing but energy itself.....and if this is indeed the case, it may also be possible to construct a system so that science can measure and record the physical properties of that energy as well. By gaining the ability to measure, science also gains the ability to observe and graph the fluctuations in those measurements. As best as I am able to tell, it is along these lines that Tim484848 draws his inspiration.​




When I have spoken to Tim484848 about what he might hope to find by studying the nature of matter in such a novel way, he has said something to the effect of only being motivated by the goal of lending a helping hand towards the betterment of all mankind and that he seeks no glory from any of the advancements that will surely result from these efforts. Helping his fellow man is his most important and only goal. What a compassionate and selfless person Tim484848 must surely be! It is for these reasons that I fully support his efforts in this regard.​




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Thank you Martin, for taking the time, to join this great Forum, and posting those kind words!
 
Well I suppose it could by a split personality sending me negative waves:D

Maybe it is some one else!

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Some laugh at the Pope, for using different types of electronics, to keep up with a changing world, so why not afterlife as well?

Like it or not, but that just might be a possibility one day, if we like it or not.

I get the feeling from some, that they feel they have a better idea.

Please fill free to inform us, and let us help you with yours.

If you have a better idea, that we can do today for free, then please fill free to share, and do not take it to the grave with you.

I have been blessed, to meet so many smart people, in such a short time, thanks to the Internet, and you!


Many people in life, have a ego, and with this ego, they try and control.

I do not do that.

I want you to be better than me, it saves time!

Now what do I offer in return?

My free Afterlife concept!

A round table topic discussion, about what we can do, to make this option happen, regardless if you believe it will work or not, at this time.

What are the moment of truths with my free idea?

People can not comprehend it.

Example, if the first place I ever tried to explain this option, was at the border of Mexico. I would still be waiting, to get back into my own country.

People must just naturally feel there is a catch. Maybe it is from years of watching Candid Camera, or all those cops, and robber shows.

Before I had this insight, into this option of mine, I was just like you!

I thought after you die, that was all they wrote, done deal, no more, nothing from nothing equals nothing.

After my near death experience, and measuring it in a way, that plays an important role, in this free option of mine.

People who have near death out of body experiences, do not get much respect, because it is too easy, to fake one, just by reading stuff, like I post.

This section of my option can not be measured, because that does taint the experiment.

For an experiment to be successful in science. You have to duplicate the experiment.

I am quite aware of that, and my internal thoughts, do not worry about it, based on what is possible, from the inside out!


Inside out possibilities, have nothing in our culture.

Even though, I am a strong supporter of equal rights for afterlife people.

I am not one, at this time. I am just like you, except i had a different experience.


The only way you will ever know for sure if you comprehend my topic, is to comprehend me.

What do I mean by that?

If you make a 5% effort, and only a 5% effort, each and every time, you come to my topic, to try and look at my topic, from a different perspective, like it just might be possible, and you just might wind up there, and afterlife is like near death out of body experiences, and they could even connect to your body, as you live your life everyday, and you would not even know it.

Afterlife has the ability to do a lot of different things, that we can not do, besides the fact that it would be one thing, if we could just do it, but that is only but a drop of sand, to what we could be doing, if we would just first, take a time out, and question some things, that just are wrong.

President Obama spoke, of reviewing things that don't work, and finding better ways of making it work better.

My free idea concept, is one of those.

Regardless what did not work in the past, with communicating with afterlife, don't really matter, but what can we do to fix the problem now!

Even if I am wrong, it opens the door, for others to try just as well!

Years ago, people use to flock to these springs, and they were hoping, that they were the fountain of youth, and people would take their money, and nothing ever happened.

Some people feel, that I am just trying to get attention.

We get it, that people feel.

I feel good sometimes, but that is not what this topic is about, not at this time.

To help this discussion, regardless the paradigm, it would help, it i know what you know, or don't know.

Just playing dumb, is a waste of time.


You are better than that, I know you are.

I was asked to stay, because it is entertaining, if that is all you want from it for now, then I will try and provide that, and we can do it in an afterlife bar, kind of like that one in Star Wars, where everybody looked weird, the first time you saw them.

We can play the procrastination denial game as long as it takes your thoughts, to rap their selfs around this, just like all magnets connect, and what is the cancer possibilities, anytime you fight a magnetic field, and do it differently.

We know what happens, when the sun energy flips, as it will do in 2012!

Now that is predicting the future, and can we keep the satellites on one side of the earth, when this happens, and even then, can we adjust our options, to when, and where the solar flares will happen.


maybe we will have to tie our satellite's to out space elevator, and create our first outer space transit!

Bring outer space into the labs, in a way that has never been explored.

If we are in the image of God, then he only has 40,000 thoughts a day on average.

If we are the image of God, then he told me, to tell you, to try my free idea concept, because you will feel better, that you did!

The same laws of life for humans, apply for afterlife as well.

Please fill free to explain to me, witch one does not.

Thank you for reading my invisible thoughts, with those of your own.

I perceive that I will change you to the better, as you train me, how you like to be treated.

I can do that to a point, just as long as it does not effect company policies, laws of science, and anything else you can thing of, like the fact, that i never had a desire to go to college, because there was nothing there, that i wanted to know.

Example: It is so easy to play the blame game, but not with me. if you like a little about me, but not my topic, then that is find, just as long if you could help with the topic as well, even if you do not like my free idea concept, or equation, or song, or dance, or anything that gets this bowling ball rolling toward this option.

regardless how long my threads are, or anything else, we must continue my option, as you must continue religion, and sports, and weather, and ever thing else that makes up this great world we live in.

Why do some feel my free idea is not possible?

Because some humans, can not even try, to talk to other humans, in fear of what might happen to them in the media.

They are afraid of being considered a nut, drugged in some way, or anything else that is negative, other than just considering the option, and helping to make it happen.

Now you say, but Tim, how can we support something, that we believe will not work.

You are entertaining Tim, but we are not buying into this, because nothing will happen, when you say it will happen, and you will just get people's hopes up, when they need to stay focused on the hopes we are already providing them, established hopes, that you can be proud of, through thick and then, and if by chance, we are wrong, and it is discovered by a lesser unmanageable super power like us, who can not even keep track of a President plane.

Then, and only then, will we address the problem, because we do not recognize a problem, at this time.

I just thought that up, right off the top of my head, and if i took the time, i could add even more, but after you go through these types of threads, you find, that there is no teeth in any of this, except a way of trying to control the situation, through their eyes, and they do not want others to have the control.

President Obama, don't want to imagine, that afterlife people are watching him.

All I can assume, and that is a big word in America, that he is scared!

I guess he could send in the Navy Seals, and take me out!

Am I a pirate?

Am I somebody our Government should fear, because they already know i am right, and if that is the case, then i can make it better, than what ever they are doing now!


A past out of body afterlife person, once said this Quote.

"You have nothing to fear, but fear itself"
 
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Now that looks like, "Old School" Negative Entertainment!



People actually shave their legs for this!

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Just like this one!

How can you tell that their option is fake?

When they only give you an all or nothing option!

I welcome everybody's afterlife option, just as long as it don't hurt you, or anybody else!

Please fill free to get off that scary negative ride, and try my positive one, with free entertainment!

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Get off that negative thought swimming pool, and float my way!


Sure there will be others, that will try and derail my option,

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Do not let them, it is entertaining, safe, no obligation, and did I say free!

My umbrella option,

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covers everybody!

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Now that is some Orb entertainment, worth checking out!
 
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Hello Tim484848,

I don't know if you have seen dvice.com's list of neat things you can implant into your body yet today, but I thought I would bring this to your attention if you had not.

Thought to speech machine....
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4. Thought-to-speech cerebral implant
Still in the early stages of development, prosthetic speech implants capitalize on the still-healthy speech centers that persist even when a person loses the ability to speak. Right now it's mostly syllables being produced in studies, though it's only a matter of time before full words can be formed. That's great news for anyone who can't talk, but — we can't help but wonder — would would happen if you gave this thing some more juice?
also...


The Brain Machine Interface....
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3. Brain-machine interface
The guy wearing the goofy helmet you see above is actually a Honda researcher, and he's controlling the Asimo next to him with nothing but his mind. While Honda's version doesn't require invasive brain surgery, the more responsive systems do. Cyborgs, anyone? Any one of the X-Men would love to be able to control one of the giant, mutant-hunting Sentinels, though a character such as Karima Shapandar would actually need this technology to exist and control her bionic body.
Perhaps Afterlife might choose to make use of these new exciting technologies as well.

With this additional information in hand, I am confident many of the nay sayers on this thread will choose to retract their statements of disbelief and trumpet your praises as the scientific trail blazer that you truly are!

All the best and until next time...


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