This will oust the corruption of transgender

[KitaYama]

Miss Italy bans transgender contestants from beauty pageant

Miss Italy has banned transgender women from competing in the beauty pageant.

www.moneycontrol.com

Trans men enter Miss Italy pageant in droves after trans women are told they can’t compete

Trans activist Federico Barbarossa entered the Miss Italy pageant after its organizer said trans women weren’t allowed. His protest went viral and more than 100 trans men signed up, he said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Wow! KitaYama, thanks for bringing those two articles together. I believe it is only a matter of time before the next step - banning transpeople of either chosen gender - from everything. At which point human rights activists will have a cause celebre that just won't quit.

 

[ColinEssex]

People should be classed as the sex they were born. If a man wants to be female or vice-versa, fine, just shut up and stop being something you will never be. All this transgender crap is just attention seeking. Its enough to make you throw up. We have these queers on TV who dress like females - totally stupid.
We have males saying 'inside I am female' what total bollocks. A bloke is a bloke and a bird is a bird that's it, end of. Blokes fancy birds and birds fancy blokes, forget this transgender crap.
Col

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Col, your attitude is not rare, but I have posted evidence that shows the problem MIGHT not be quite so cut-and-dried. I'm not talking about "intersex" cases where due to some unusual process, the person has genitalia of both sexes. There is that group that, because of some OTHER unknown and unusual process, they have the brain structures of the sex opposite to their genitalia, and research has shown that it is possible that they actually DO feel like they are in the wrong gender. And considering that the BRAIN is the most potent sex organ, they really might be.

I pity such people who have such a conundrum built-in to their lives. Many gay people would reject my pity and I don't mean it in a negative way. I do know what it is like for people to look at you with expectations that have nothing to do with what you wanted. The world is full of people who project expectations onto you. I find it difficult sometimes to tell people to "buzz off" (or other language) when they say, "Oh, you aren't living up to your potential" or "You aren't being a MAN about this situation" or "Grow a pair." The tendency of people to look at you and immediately expect something other than what you have chosen for yourself is particularly irritating.

Be honest, Col... when we give YOU a hard time about YOUR attitude towards (your words here...) half-castes and gold-diggers, disgraced royals, and such, don't you find THAT annoying?

 

[prabha_friend]

Whatever you may think... I have a thing for Trans

 

[KitaYama]

they have the brain structures of the sex opposite to their genitalia, and research has shown that it is possible that they actually DO feel like they are in the wrong gender. And considering that the BRAIN is the most potent sex organ, they really might be.

@The_Doc_Man I've seen numerous times you've explained, linked or insisted on evidences of how someone's brain may act different with their sex. Though I respect, understand and accept it, but somehow you should draw a line. Different brains act differently. But how far do you let it go.
I know a group of people who think they are animals. Will you behave them like they're dogs or cats?

I really like to post some links to Instagram, but I know you don't use it and you can't watch it.
Now that you can't watch it, let me quote it for you.
The following is from a TV program in US. I think it was from FOX.
I've not touched it. It's the exact text the hostess was saying. What do you think about it?

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After transgender and transracial, we got transabled.
yeah that's really messed up.

Physically healthy people who feel they should have been born disabled.
A man in Great Britain cut off his arm because he felt like an amputee.
A woman in North Carolina poured drain cleaner in her eyes because she felt blind.

Transgender , Transracial, Transabled.
Guess what's next.
A grown man posting an ad on Craigslist wanting a nanny because he identifies as a baby.
You can't make this stuff up.

Ridiculous?
perhaps. But who's to say anymore if that's how he feels?

If a man can be a woman because he feels like one,
If a white person can be a black person because she feels like one,
If a healthy person can mutilate herself because she feels disabled,
If a grown man can be a baby because he feels infantile,
Where does this end?
Can a child be an adult because she feels like a grown up?
Can a teenager buy alcohol because he identifies as over 21 years of age?
Can a grown man attend kindergarten because he identifies six year old girl?
Can a child spend the day at doggy daycare instead of school because the child feels like a canine?

If not, why not?

If a kid can be transgender because he feels like a girl
who are we to tell a child he must attend school? or obey his parents? or refuse him a beer when he orders one?

you can't have it both ways.
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[ColinEssex]

Col, your attitude is not rare,

Be honest, Col... when we give YOU a hard time about YOUR attitude towards (your words here...) half-castes and gold-diggers, disgraced royals, and such, don't you find THAT annoying?

Of course it's not annoying. Surely you've worked it out by now, do I have to spell it out?
Col

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Though I respect, understand and accept it, but somehow you should draw a line.

I specifically refer to gender-dysphoria situations. Animal fetishes and fantasies are not in the same category. Amputation fetishes are not in the same category. The line I would draw is that if you think you are another species, take that one to a professional therapist. (Also get your shots...) There are body "stylers" who go through extreme modification, like pointed ears or tiger stripes. I do not include them, either. They are totally outside the line I would draw.

KitaYama, I can only refer you to the 1990s study from the UK using P.E.T. scans in which it was discovered that the human brain has a set of optional (or perhaps non-uniform) structures that usually correlate strongly to primary sex characteristics. BUT there is a percentage of cases where the plumbing and the wiring are at odds. THIS is the specific case to which I refer. I draw a line to include and enclose gender dysphoria caused by having the brain structures associated with the gender that mismatches your "assigned at birth" sex.

The current discussion of "gender fluidity" is, I think, mischaracterized. It should be seen as confusion and indecision leading to delayed "outing", because society pressures people into conformity and they may try for a while to fit in. Until they realize they can't. Once they fully recognize their true orientation, the fluidity vanishes.

Because multiple structures were identified by the researchers, I can't rule out existence of a spectrum of orientation (probably differences in degree of masculine or feminine traits). So we COULD have a feminine man or a masculine woman who nonetheless are heterosexual, and a very masculine acting man who is nonetheless gay, and the corresponding case for feminine women who are gay.

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Matt Walsh makes a good point

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[Uncle Gizmo]

If your 14y old daughter or granddaughter went in to the lady's toilets and this person followed her in, what would you do?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1696081290527650283

 

[Uncle Gizmo]

Col, your attitude is not rare, but I have posted evidence that shows the problem MIGHT not be quite so cut-and-dried.

I have an instinctive resistance to anything that these trans people do.

I couldn't fathom it out at first, I consider myself tolerant and I have lived through the change in society which now finds gay people acceptable, at least in the Western world.

So I realised that my instinctive reaction to changes in society need to be monitored and maybe need to be modified.

I agree with Richard that some unfortunate people are in a dilemma and it must be terrible for them. But I instinctively felt this trans movement was fundamentally wrong and I didn't know why until I read the following which comes from Matt Walsh who brought us the "what is a woman" video.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1696639482210996421

The trans movement has all of the hallmarks of a Cult, and that makes it dangerous to everyone! I now realised my instinctive resistance was well-founded.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

UG, we need to agree that the Trans movement to which you refer includes more than people afflicted with the condition I describe regarding cross-gendered brain structure. Those who are pushing the "woke" movement to support Trans people might not all themselves be Trans people. The whole "woke" movement is cult-like. Cults are ALWAYS dangerous.

I have known people who would happily "come out" and actively become Trans, but they are being held back by the way society treats those who HAVE "come out" - a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" situation. Gay people don't bother me until they become outrageously flamboyant, but the "bother" is due to excessive behavior, not to the fact of them being gay.

 

[Cotswold]

An English trans woman cyclist is kicking off about the ban on them competing in races against women. You'd think from the media that this ban affected huge numbers. But out of the tens of thousands of women racing cyclists apparently there are around eight trans. All that fuss for a minority of eight.

Until British Cycling took this line you just wondered if anyone was in charge.

 

[AccessBlaster]

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Don't know about Trans-gender pets, but some dogs may be Trans-species. One of my uncles had a dog that would hump the leg on anyone who would sit down in their living room.

 

[Pat Hartman]

We once had a dog who thought he was a cat.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

Then there is the old story about the guy who says his uncle thinks he's a chicken. He reveals that they haven't tried to convince him otherwise because they need the eggs.

 

[Cotswold]

Don't know about Trans-gender pets, but some dogs may be Trans-species. One of my uncles had a dog that would hump the leg on anyone who would sit down in their living room.

Clearly getting his ambition mixed up with his ability

 

[AccessBlaster]

Clearly getting his ambition mixed up with his ability

That is the root problem with the transgender movement.

Ambition vs ability.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

That problem (ambition vs. ability) clearly describes many bar patrons in some of the places where I played music during my college days. Our location was actually pretty good because we would get a lot of cute young ladies passing through to listen to the live band. They got a LOT of attention from guys who were long on ambition and short on ability.