White Lives Don't Matter - apparently

Jon, there's no answer that justifies it, only the actual truth: All this stuff generally only goes to benefit one direction. It was never true equality desired in the first place. Let's be honest.
 
I am trying to understand others algos so I can see why they think that way. Naturally, I have my own view, which seems perfectly rational to me. So why are others not thinking the same way? There must be a reason. What is that reason?
 
Since this topic heated-up. A couple of idle observations where "racism" is simply being used for virtue signalling "wokeness". In one of the magazines I read, a headline included the phrase ".. creating inclusive anti-racist ..". Read the story, there is nothing concerning racism. In another magazine (fiction), the author seemed to toss in an irrelevant paragraph for the sole purposes of alluding to the character as being from a minority group that had somehow suffered from racism. So whether racism is actually germane to a story or article, authors now appear to find it necessary to show their "wokeness" by tossing in gratuitous allusions to "racism". Very sad and unfortunate
 
There must be a reason. What is that reason?
Wouldn't it be the same reasons anyone does anything selfish, taking advantage of the situation to benefit themselves to the maximum, whether that's fair or not? Aren't all human beings selfish? That's the full explanation to me.
 
I think you should not look at what someone says, but the intent behind what they say.
That's what happens to Trump. No one actually reports what he says. They only report their opinion of what they think he meant and that is ALWAYS negative. Everything is a dog whistle or encoded. They just can't believe he said what he meant and meant what he said. They are so used to politicians lying whenever their lips are moving that even after four years, they still don't get Trump.
Nobody has yet answered my question about the blackboard vs whiteboard thing. Anyone got an answer for that?
When people are bat-s*** crazy, there is nothing rational about their distinctions. You will only make yourself ill by trying to insert rationality into any discussion of LeftSpeak.
Don't forget about the dwarves!
Don't we have to call them "little people"? I've given up trying to be politically correct.

These word games remind me of my first trip to NYC when I was 17. I went with three friends to the World's Fair and we spent the night in the city. We were out walking on Sunday morning and were lost. We stopped to ask a policeman for directions. So he described a route by pointing and saying things like up 5th and east on 42... and I repeated it back starting with over there and up ... so he corrected me but I didn't get it and made the same mistake again. Growing up in a town where there were no straight streets it was foreign to me to give directions using up and down and compass directions and it took a couple of minutes to catch on. I have a similar problem when I talk to you Britt's. For a month, when we lived in Kuwait I told people coming to visit that we lived on the third floor. Silly me,
 
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I dare not even attempt to say what we used to call people /children who were 'different' when I was at school in the 60's. It didn't matter what the 'different' was, it could be size, skin tone, disability, clothing, hair cut, acne, the use of Brylcreme or not,foot size......the list is endless. But, bear in mind on TV we were watching shows that these days would attract law suits just by thinking about them.
Can I also add that the Spanish word for black is 'negra' - just an aside.
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@Pat Hartman

You mentioned growing up where there were no straight streets. New Orleans follows the shape of the river for many of its streets in "the Garden District" and "Downtown." In Orleans Parish (which coincidentally exactly overlaps the city limits of New Orleans), directions are sometimes complicated by the shape of the river. Among other complications, there are parts of the river where the sun rises over the West Bank of the river because of the switchbacks and curled pathways of the mighty Mississippi River, or "the big muddy" as we call it.

We have to talk in directions of "Uptown" and "Downtown" (Hint: Downtown is closest to the central business district thus more towards the east - but NOT necessarily to the East Bank) and "Lake" or "River" (Hint: Lake is north for New Orleans and for Jefferson Parish.)

Although it is laid out in crazy curves and there are sections that appear to radiate like spokes on a wheel, there actually IS some order in the way the city is laid out. It's just hard to see if you aren't accustomed to our reference points.
 
One thing that amazes me about Americans is their built in compass direction indicators. For example, in a film, someone will say 'they're heading east' or 'go west on 5th then north on 42nd', even in cowboy films out in the sticks, they know to head north with the herd of cows. When someone says 'they're heading east' the other person knows instantly which way east is, it's very impressive. If you ask a Brit in Oxford Street (London) which way is north, they will look at you as if you are talking gibberish. We use landmarks like 'go that way and turn left just past McDonald's then turn right at Pizza Express'.
How do Americans know this impressive directional skill? Yet you never see anyone sneaking a look at a compass to see the direction.
Col
 
Norwich, my home town, was built on 7 hills. The downtown was in the y made where two rivers joined to make the Thames. So due to the hills and three rivers, nothing ever went straight :) I didn't start using compass directions until I moved to Miami which is, except for some neighborhoods, a grid city. In Kuwait, only some streets in the inner city had names. The city is on a point of land. The original old city had a semi-circular wall that cut it off from the land side. As the city grew, they continued the semi-circle concept and then made major spoke roads radiating out. Since you didn't have an actual address, you had to give directions by land marks. The intersections of the ring and spoke roads all had something unique in the circle they created. Frequently it was water tanks and all the water tank "farms" had different numbers and painting on the towers to make them unique. The two houses I lived in were actually well known so people knew where they were. The first was referenced as the "green" house in Sulaibikhat because the owner had put florescent green lights along the top of his outer wall. He was weird in many ways. The house we ended up at was called Medina House and had been the former home of one of the local sheiks. Our landlord there was at least sane. He was a Britt and rented the whole building. His office was on the ground floor and three of the four units were rented to his employees.

This picture has multiple images of the same three farms. The second one on the top row was very near our house. They were the view from my daughter's bedroom window.
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So Pat, are you saying you are a Brit?
 
No, but I developed a British accent when I lived in Kuwait since all the Kuwaitis spoke English with a British Accent and so did the Indians except for our agent's sister. She spoke English with an American accent which cracked me up :). I am very susceptible to accents. I had a southern accent when I lived in Tennessee: My current accent is more neutral but where I grew up in Eastern CT, it leaned toward Boston. Now it has been muddled by New York.
 
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even in cowboy films out in the sticks, they know to head north with the herd of cows.

Col, if they have a herd of cows, they are outside. If they can see the sun and know whether it is morning or afternoon, they know which way is East or West, and that gives them the other three points of the compass. Even if it is partly cloudy, they will know based on cloud shadows.
 
CT is actually a tough place to get your bearings. The two major E/W arteries (I-95 which was the Connecticut Turnpike) and CT-15 which is the Merritt and Wilber Cross parkways and which connect to the parkways in NY and go all the way to the city are labeled as N/S because over their full length, they are N/S roads. It is just that in CT, they run mostly E/W except for in Greenwich. If you are travelling from Stratford to New London, you are travelling East but according to the signs, you are travelling North.
 
It reminds me of the situation where we are not allowed to call blackboards "blackboards" any more,
Most "blackboards" that I've seen in the in the US are actually green.

People of all colors look like they're about ready to snap so by default I steer clear and keep my head on a swivel.
 
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It is not just the blackboards vs whiteboards thing. Now we have a black actress playing the role of a white woman in a drama based on one of Henry the 8ths wives. Surely it is not that difficult to find a white woman for the role, especially considering the UK only has 3% blacks and 87% whites? The woke crowd is bonkers. But its not about that is it, especially in the given climate. It is about something else. What do you think the reason might be?

 
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Hollywood was notorious in the 1930s and 1940s, and even into the 1950s, for not hiring Native Americans to play, ... well..., Native Americans. They also used blackface makeup for African tribesmen as crowd extras in various jungle epics including some early Tarzan films. The skin tones photographed as normal Blacks but the facial structures were wrong based on typical tribal physiognomy. I'm sort of with you on this one, Jon. Where history KNOWS what a person looked like, find a look-alike. Where nobody knows what the person REALLY looked like, take your shot at a good actor of any ethnicity.

Which is why having a Black Jesus in the stage play of Jesus Christ Superstar didn't give me a moment's qualms. Which is why, when Morgan Freeman is cast as God (in Bruce Almighty) or a president (in Deep Impact) or a brilliant scientist (in Lucy) it doesn't bother me. Which is why it doesn't bother me that Wes Studi, a Native American, is getting some good roles in films such as The Sphinx (in Mystery Men) or the voice of the tribal chief Eytukan (in Avatar).

In my hobbyist writing, I included a "person of color" as a major character and there are a LOT of secondary characters who could have been of any color. It would not bother me if someone decides to take my story and make a movie out of it (oh... PLEASE, fairy godmother, just his once be real...) if the studio cast the general or several other military officers as people of color. I'd be miffed if my lead female was cast that way, but actually wouldn't be as upset about the lead male.
 
No, but I developed a British accent when I lived in Kuwait since all the Kuwaitis spoke English with a British Accent and so did the Indians except for our agent's sister. She spoke English with an American accent which cracked me up :). I am very susceptible to accents. I had a southern accent when I lived in Tennessee: My current accent is more neutral but where I grew up in Eastern CT, it leaned toward Boston. Now it has been muddled by New York.
When I lived in Spain, there was a small group of Spanish ship yard workers who worked for a British shipline and worked for and were trained by Brits.

I would drink with them (at an Irish pub!) on fish and chip night. It was very surreal to listen to them talk. Quite amazing the adaptive nature of the human body and brain....
 
But @The_Doc_Man, as I understand it, there is no whiteface. It is a black actress portraying a black wife, when we know she was white. Doesn't that strike you as odd and some kind of woke political statement, where the left is bastardising history for the sake of furthering a political ideology? Or would there be nothing wrong with Hollywood doing a biopic movie on Muhammed Ali, but played by a white male actor without blackface?

Does this dinosaur just not understand that in todays world, discrimination is encouraged if you believe in equality?
 
Or would there be nothing wrong with Hollywood doing a biopic movie on Muhammed Ali, but played by a white male actor without blackface?
Yeah, riiight. I remember as recent as Lion King. Much ado was made because Mufasa's voice (James Earl Jones) was of a black man while Simba's was white.

The Right-Fighters would howl to the highest level of howl-tivity
 

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