Are you an atheist? (1 Viewer)

[Mick Jagger]

The Ten Commandments have profoundly influenced the... formation of our country. That influence is clearly seen in the Declaration of Independence, which declared that “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal...

The Ten Commandments impose the death penalty upon "He who sacrifices to any god, other than to the LORD alone." That is hardly consistent with the principle that all men are created with an equal right to religious liberty.

 

[Rabbie]

The Ten Commandments impose the death penalty upon "He who sacrifices to any god, other than to the LORD alone." That is hardly consistent with the principle that all men are created with an equal right to religious liberty.

I have searched the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20 2:17 and there is no mention of the death penalty as mentioned above. Perhaps you are confusing the ten commandments with other pieces of religious law.

 

[Mick Jagger]

Exodus 22:20

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New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"He who sacrifices to any god, other than to the LORD alone, shall be utterly destroyed.
King James Bible
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
American King James Version
He that sacrifices to any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
American Standard Version
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto Jehovah only, shall be utterly destroyed.
Bible in Basic English
Complete destruction will come on any man who makes offerings to any other god but the Lord.
Douay-Rheims Bible
He that sacrificeth to gods, shall be put to death, save only to the Lord.
Darby Bible Translation
He that sacrificeth to any god, save to Jehovah only, shall be devoted to destruction.
English Revised Version
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, shall be utterly destroyed.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"Whoever sacrifices to any god except the LORD must be condemned and destroyed.
Jewish Publication Society Tanakh
He that sacrificeth unto the gods, save unto the LORD only, shall be utterly destroyed.
Webster's Bible Translation
He that sacrificeth to any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
World English Bible
"He who sacrifices to any god, except to Yahweh only, shall be utterly destroyed.

 

[Friday]

Perfect examples of what happens when you stop going to church and abandon the fellowship!

Who said they stopped going to church?

 

[Rabbie]

Exodus 22:20​

NOT the 10 commandments. They are in Exodus 20 and repeated in Deuteronomy 5 not in Exodus 22.

 

[Rich]

The Ten Commandments impose the death penalty upon "He who sacrifices to any god, other than to the LORD alone." That is hardly consistent with the principle that all men are created with an equal right to religious liberty.

How about "Thou shalt not kill" conflicting with your right to bear arms etc.,etc

 

[georgedwilkinson]

Sorry, the 10 commandments are not located in Exodus 22 (see Rabbie's post for exact location). I think the framers of the Declaration of Independence properly and purposefully didn't include the concepts in the document because it is Jewish Law, and some may say, it is currently (and 200 years ago was) outdated.

Particularly "If a man steals an ox or a sheep and slaughters it or sells it, he shall pay five oxen for the ox and four sheep for the sheep." This type of stuff just has no business in the documents that form a new country.

"You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt." Again, not part of the 10 commandments and clearly not pertinent to the formation of the United States of America, even though it seems like sound advice, though the reasoning is a bit off from the framers point of view.

 

[Mick Jagger]

NOT the 10 commandments. They are in Exodus 20 and repeated in Deuteronomy 5 not in Exodus 22.

You should always read the fine print, dude.

 

[Alisa]

What exactly is your point, Mick?
I am personally proud to be from a country that was founded by godless heathens.

 

[Mick Jagger]

What exactly is your point, Mick?

Ah, whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah.

 

[Rich]

Ah, whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah.

Yes pleased to meet you, how about popping back to St Petersburg for a few years

 

[Rabbie]

You should always read the fine print, dude.

You need to learn about the 10 commandments before you start lecturing people.

 

[Mick Jagger]

You need to learn about the 10 commandments before you start lecturing people.

The first white Christian men to illegally immigrate here and steal land from the Indians in the northern part of our country killed their children for not properly honoring their parents.

 

[georgedwilkinson]

Shame on them, we should punish them severely.

 

[Darth Vodka]

The first white Christian men to illegally immigrate here and steal land from the Indians in the northern part of our country killed their children for not properly honoring their parents.

illegal under what law?

 

[Rabbie]

The first white Christian men to illegally immigrate here and steal land from the Indians in the northern part of our country killed their children for not properly honoring their parents.

And your point is?

 

[Rich]

The first white Christian men to illegally immigrate here and steal land from the Indians in the northern part of our country killed their children for not properly honoring their parents.

And many of your States still carry on the tradition, progress eh

 

[Rabbie]

The point is that the illegal immigrants had some very strange parenting ideas. But then face it, who hasn't felt like to doing the same lol. Not that we would follow through.

I was asking Mick Jagger what his point was. It didn't seem to have any connection to my post which he was quoting.

 

[Alc]

How about "Thou shalt not kill" conflicting with your right to bear arms etc.,etc

Maybe you've found a loophole that would really vex any Christian gun nuts?
They can have a gun, but they can't kill anyone.

 

[Darth Vodka]

Maybe you've found a loophole that would really vex any Christian gun nuts?
They can have a gun, but they can't kill anyone.

perhaps thou can blow kneecaps off?