Coronavirus - are we all doomed?

[AccessBlaster]

The NY Times do not need to invent a timeline conspiracy. All the politicians and most of the media, including the doctors were misled by China and the W.H.O. Sorry if that doesn't fit the liberal narrative.

 

[deletedT]

All the politicians and most of the media, including the doctors were misled by China and the W.H.O.

All the whole world were misled by China and W.H.O.
Why US is in the worst position?

I've said it before. Even if you are his supporter, don't close your eyes to facts.

 

[moke123]

The NY Times do not need to invent a timeline conspiracy. All the politicians and most of the media, including the doctors were misled by China and the W.H.O. Sorry if that doesn't fit the liberal narrative.

While the email chain begins with some study of China, It quickly turns to the cruise ship data and U.S. data.

Impressive list of participants including Surgeon General and Dr.Fauci

Some of the individuals included in these emails
Surgeon General of the United States.
++ Dr. Jerome Adams
HomelandSecurity
++ Dr. DuaneCaneva,DHS Chief medicalofficer
++ Dr. DavidS Wade, medicalofficer,Departmentof HomelandSecurity,previouslyon NSC
++ Dr. ThomasWilkinson,MedicalInformationOfficer DHS
++ HerbertO. Wolfedirector and actingchief of staff of the Office of the Chief MedicalOfficer at the U.S.
Departmentof HomelandSecurity.
++ Dr. DavidTarantino,senior medicaladviser for CBP andcoordinator of the protectionpartof CBP's
responseto the opioidcrisis.
++ Dr.GregoryJ.Martin,StateDepartment
++ Dr.Alexander L.Eastmansenior medicalofficer HomelandSecurity
++ Dr.SangeetaKaushikisanemergencymedicinephysicianat DHS
STATEDepartment
++ Dr.LarryG.PadgetJr. StateDepartment
Healthand HumanServicesand Centersfor DiseaseControland Prevention
++ BrettGiroir,AssistantSecretaryfor Healthat theU.S.Departmentof Healthand HumanServices
++ Dr.Anthony Fauci,director of the NationalInstituteof AllergyandInfectiousDiseases
++ Dr.RobertKadlec,AssistantSecretaryof Healthand HumanServices
++ Dr.RichardHunt,senior medicaladvisor
++ Dr.RobertR.Redfield,Directorof the Centersfor DiseaseControland Prevention
++ ChristianHassellSenior ScienceAdvisor at U.S.Departmentof Healthand HumanServices
++ DanielDodgen,director of ASPR Divisionfor At-Risk Individuals,BehavioralHealth,andCommunity
Resilience.
++ KristinL.DeBord,Directorof StrategyOfficeof theAssistantSecretaryfor Preparednessand
ResponseU.S.Departmentof HealthandHumanServices
++ RobertJohnson,Ph.D.,is the Director of the InfluenzaandEmergingInfectiousDiseasesDivisionof
BiomedicalAdvancedResearchDevelopmentAuthority
++ KevinYeskey,M.D.currentlyserves as the PrincipalDeputyAssistantSecretaryto the Assistant
Secretaryfor PreparednessandResponse(ASPR)at the Departmentof Healthand HumanServices
(HHS).Theofficeleads the nationin preventing,respondingto andrecoveringfrom the adversehealth
effects of manmadeandnaturallyoccurringdisaster and publichealthemergencies.
++ Dr.Gary Disbrowis the DeputyDirector(Acting)of the BiomedicalAdvancedResearchand
DevelopmentAuthority
++ Dr. JohnT. Redd,a medicalepidemiologistwiththe U.S.Centersfor DiseaseControlandPrevention
Department of Defense
++ Col. Matthew Hepburn, M.D., DARPA program manager, former director of Medical Preparedness on
the White House National Security Staff.
Department of Veterans Affairs
++ Dr. Carter E.Mecher, Senior Medical Advisor
++ Paul Kshemendra, chief data officer and executive director for data governance and analytics
ACADEMICS/PrivateSector/FormerGovernmentOfficials
++ EvaK Lee: Americanoperationsresearcher who applies combininratorialoptimizationandsystems
biologyto the study of healthcare decision making at GeorgiaTech
++ Tom Bossert former HomelandSecurity Advisor to U.S.PresidentDonaldTrump.
++ Dr. Dan Hanfling,MD, Clinical Professor of EmergencyMedicine at GeorgeWashingtonUniversity
also with In-Q-Tel
+ + RalphBaric, PhD, Professorin the DepartmentofEpidemiologyUNC, leaderin the studyof
coronaviruses
+ + RichardHatchettCEO Coalitionfor EpidemicPreparedness. Servedin the WhiteHousesof
PresidentsGeorgeW . Bush and BarackObama
+ + Dr. JamesLawler, infectiousdisease doctor atUniversityofNebraska, served as a memberofthe
HomelandSecurityCouncilfor PresidentGeorge W . Bush and as a memberofthe NationalSecurity
CouncilforPresidentBarack Obama.
+ + Dr. DavidMarcozzi, formersenior advisorfor EmergencyPreparednessand Acute Care within the
Centers ofMedicareandMedicaidServices andmemberofWhite HouseNationalSecurity Council.
+ + + MichaelWargois vice presidentofemergencypreparednessat HCAHealthcare.
+ + Herbert O . Wolfe ofPennState, formerNationalSecurity Councilstaffat the White House
STATEOFFICIALS
+ + Dr. Charity A Dean, CaliforniaDepartmentofPublicHealth
+ ++ DavidGruberTexasDepartmentofStateHealth ServicesMobileAssociate Commissionerfor
Regionaland LocalHealthOperations, BorderHealth, EmergencyPreparednessand the Texas Center
for InfectiousDisease.
+ + Dr. Jeffrey S . Duchin, Health Officerand Chief, CommunicableDisease Epidemiology Immunization
SectionPublicHealth- Seattle and KingCo

 

[AccessBlaster]

Look the media is scared their guy Biden is a non starter, they are coming to grips with the prospect of four more years of Trump. Russia did not work and Biden's about to take a nap.

 

[AccessBlaster]

I've said it before. Even if you are his supporter, don't close your eyes to facts.

I'll leave it to the voters in November. I am not a republican.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Medical news today

Here is something I have been looking at for a while.
United States Nationally, the numbers below from 2017 are staggering, does anyone notice?

Answer: NO, It's not politically expedient.

COVID-19

Confirmed
586,057

Recovered
43,637

Deaths
23,604
**************************************
Top ten deaths in 2017

Cancer
Deaths in 2017: 599,108
Percentage of total deaths: 21.3%

Heart disease
Deaths in 2017: 647,457
Percentage of total deaths: 23.5%

Unintentional injuries
Deaths in 2017: 169,936
Percentage of total deaths: 6%

Chronic lower respiratory disease
Deaths in 2017: 160,201
Percentage of total deaths: 5.7%

Stroke and cerebrovascular diseases
Deaths in 2017: 146,383
Percentage of total deaths: 5.2%

Alzheimer’s disease
Deaths in 2017: 121,404
Percentage of total deaths: 4.3%

Diabetes
Deaths in 2017: 83,564
Percentage of total deaths: 3%

Influenza and pneumonia
Deaths in 2017: 55,672
Percentage of total deaths: 2%

Kidney disease
Deaths in 2017: 50,633
Percentage of total deaths: 1.8%

Suicide
Deaths in 2017: 47,173

 

[isladogs]

With the exception of flu, none of the main causes of death in 2017 were from infectious diseases.

 

[Galaxiom]

Medical news today

Here is something I have been looking at for a while.
United States Nationally, the numbers below from 2017 are staggering, does anyone notice?

Answer: NO, It's not politically expedient.

You put your spin on anything and try to distract from the reality that your leaders screwed it up badly.
It isn't politically expedient for you to acknowledge that is it.

Trump played it down right from the beginning and has been moronic about it all along.
It was of course exacerbated by the average US citizen insisting on maintaining their freedom.

The other causes of death are much bigger than Covid in most other countries too but the US has done poorly compared to most other countries at controlling the pandemic.

 

[deletedT]

Medical news today

Here is something I have been looking at for a while.
United States Nationally, the numbers below from 2017 are staggering, does anyone notice?

You're just looking at the death numbers.
Try to compare economical damage in each case.

1. Which one of the cases you mentioned had any effect on the economy?
2. Which one of those made people to be this scared?
3. Which one of them made the shelves in the shops empty?

 

[moke123]

Seasonal Flu deaths are not counted in adults. The number is estimated based on excess deaths in the year and certain factors. Thats one of the reasons you see a large spread in the numbers. Flu deaths in kids are counted and an interesting fact is that @ 80% of those deaths are unvaccinated.

 

[AccessBlaster]

You put your spin on anything and try to distract from the reality that your leaders screwed it up badly.
It isn't politically expedient for you to acknowledge that is it.

Trump played it down right from the beginning and has been moronic about it all along.
It was of course exacerbated by the average US citizen insisting on maintaining their freedom.

The other causes of death are much bigger than Covid in most other countries too but the US has done poorly compared to most other countries at controlling the pandemic.

The United States has a concept known as "states rights". Some governors are bound to get it wrong. Even though I am not a huge fan of our Governor Gavin Newsom, in this case i'm pretty happy.

In American political discourse, states' rights are political powers held for the state governments rather than the federal government according to the United States Constitution, reflecting especially the enumerated powers of Congress and the Tenth Amendment.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Seasonal Flu deaths are not counted in adults. The number is estimated based on excess deaths in the year and certain factors. Thats one of the reasons you see a large spread in the numbers. Flu deaths in kids are counted and an interesting fact is that @ 80% of those deaths are unvaccinated.

How pissed will you be when it turns out COVID-19 was bio engineered in a Wuhan lab? All the deaths around the world were all for not.

I know the Chinese science says it's not bio engineered, but it sure feels like "revenge porn".

 

[vba_php]

"revenge porn".

i sure hope my girl never gets involved in that.

 

[moke123]

i sure hope my girl never gets involved in that.

Just regular porn, AmIRight Señor Adam?

 

[vba_php]

Just regular porn, AmIRight Señor Adam?

if I showed you a photo, you'd be drooling. I feel pretty lucky. she's not even comparable to anyone here.

 

[AccessBlaster]

Just regular porn, AmIRight Señor Adam?

You even got the tilde on senor, nice.

 

[deletedT]

How pissed will you be when it turns out COVID-19 was bio engineered in a Wuhan lab? All the deaths around the world were all for not.

I know the Chinese science says it's not bio engineered, but it sure feels like "revenge porn".

From the very first day that covid-19 alarm went off and a Europe showed numerous infections and deaths, I was saying it's a bio engineered thing. A bio weapon.
For me the mystery is : was it on purpose or just a mistake.

Plus, I don't give the possibility to only China. I think other countries with bio technology may be responsible.

 

[The_Doc_Man]

The evidence presented by those who have done the viral equivalent of genome sequencing studies is that the COVID-19 virus is natural, not bio-engineered. That does NOT stop anyone from using a natural virus as a weapon. It still could have escaped from a lab where someone was trying to culture it and succeeded too well.

 

[AccessBlaster]

It still could have escaped from a lab where someone was trying to culture it and succeeded too well.

Or they intentionally infected people with a "natural" virus, and sent them on a jihad so to speak. The aim would be a reset of the world economy at any cost.

 

[deletedT]

and sent them on a jihad so to speak

How can you relate it to Islam?
Which Moslem country has the technology to cultivate a virus? And above that something this deadly?