Coronavirus - are we all doomed?

Ah, that is true - electronic things don't have souls ...
Hal 9000, may disagree. Then there is skynet. Have you wondered, when you took the teleporter, that you remain you?

Do Androids Dream?

"Do robots have souls? Do clones? Can a computer have a sense of humor? Do Androids Dream?note It has been asked in many forms, but the fundamental question is always, "what makes us human?" And is it possible for an artificial intelligence or life form to possess those same qualities?"

I did read one very Heinlienisk story, where an inventor developed a device that could tell if a person had a soul or was simply a machine. Very chilling consequences when tested.
 
@Weekleyba Forgive me if I add to that perspective.

Some facts:
  • If you have the Coronavirus, you are 1,000 times more likely to be hospitalised then if you have the flu.
  • The death rate for flu is well under 0.1%. The death rate for Corona is estimated by many to be 1-2%. i.e. it is about 20 times more deadly than flu.
  • Corona lasts about 3 days on surfaces. Flu lasts 2 days.
  • Corona is more infectious than flu.
  • There is talk that millions will die in the US, as opposed to tens of thousands due to flu.
 
We have had pandemics before, and at least 1,000 Americans died as recently as 2009. The difference is the reporting, nobody wanted Obama out of office, CNN MSNBC and others hate Trump more than they love America or the world for that matter. A lot of this hording is due to the media over the top bias reporting, compare the non hysteria in 2009 to the bat ass crazy reporting now.

Its all about power, they don't care if you kill yourself over toilet paper, it just makes their skewed point.
 
Its all about power, they don't care if you kill yourself over toilet paper, it just makes their skewed point.
i was simply telling someone at Perkins this morning that the world would be much better off without news agencies.
 
There is talk that millions will die in the US, as opposed to tens of thousands due to flu.

Corona is serious, for sure, but, your last point, "millions will die" is what is driving people crazy. The media needs to be more responsible with what they put out to the public. What I've read so far is, unless you are elderly or have some immunocompromised condition, when you are diagnosed with COVID-19, they send you home. No meds, just self quarantine until it passes. That's what has been done with a couple of cases close to me. Anyone have similar experience?
 
"millions will die" is what is driving people crazy. The media needs to be more responsible with what they put out to the public.
How is that irresponsible? Have you done the math?
 
Oh, jeez, Adam... and yet YOU were the one who suggested that one should post here in a lighthearted vein.

So War (with his symbolic sword) and Death (with his symbolic scythe) are calling out Pestilence (with his symbolic toilet paper.) You DON'T see the humor in that? Oh, unwise child who understands nothing, it is obvious why you have a problem in this forum.
 
Adam, without news agencies, tyrants could get away with anything. I agree that BIASED news agencies are no damned good. But if you could find a news agency that DOESN'T try to put "spin" on everything, you would be OK. And of course, since humans are involved, that no-spin component of news might be hard to find.
 
And of course, since humans are involved, that no-spin component of news might be hard to find.
agreed. there MUST be spin. just like the earth's axis demands. as for me understanding nothing, your mistake is not believing is just like others' mistake that will eventually find them wondering what in the hell they are doing in the future. I just might get a knock on my door in the far off future from people who are wondering why they are going nuts. I'm not looking forward to that, if indeed it comes to pass. and my "problem" on the forum is nothing significant. I learned just today that there are folks here that finally put me on their ignore list. so good for them. if they don't wanna read, they know how to fix, and they obviously did.
 
My issue, Adam, is that I, too, don't want to read your tripe. However, when you step in and demean a brand new poster by telling them that you know they won't understand something, you just insulted them. Don't you see that?

You accuse me of going over their heads - but the way you give us a bad name is to underestimate the people before you assess their abilities. For example, Elena claims knowledge of the Access GUI and claims some knowledge of tables & relationships. Her weakness is VBA. I figured that out and tailored a response for her to have an easy inroad to VBA by studying what the Access wizards do. It is cheap and easy to do that.

YOUR response to Elena was "I know you won't understand my answer and my web site isn't ready so just learn how to use Google." You arrogant ASS! HOW THE HELL do you think she found this site in the first place? Divine inspiration? Or just MAYBE ... she searched for it with Google.

In order to maintain a standard for the technical level of this forum, which I happen to like, I make it a point to correct you when you are wrong or totally off track - which occurs with distressing frequency. But when the problem is attitude, I don't have a way to wipe up your mess. It becomes visible to all and sundry. Which I actually like, because if I open myself up to PMs, nobody will see your arguments. You'll HAVE to come out in the open and not hide from your problems. If you want to call me "old man" like you did in Elena's thread, go right ahead. I know I'm not young any more. But I know that somewhere along the line, I earned respect in various ways.

Doesn't it tell you something at all that many members of the forum have blocked you? Don't you get that you have demonstrated your true colors and they have shut you out because of it?

If you think I disrespect you, perhaps it is because all relationships quickly become reflections. My treatment of you is a reflection of how you treat me. It is a practical application (in reverse) of the Golden Rule. Obviously, you want to be treated with disrespect because you have not learned to show respect. You seem to think that my old ways are bad. I learned a long time ago that "we do it this way because it has always been done this way" is the WORST excuse of all to do something in a particular way. The best excuse is, of course, that it works better in a particular way. I believe in precedent as a good but not ironclad guideline. Is THAT petrified thinking? Or merely applying old wisdom to new problems to see if they fit?

Next time you call me "old man" just remember that this old man has probably forgotten more about programming than YOU ever knew.
 
YOUR response to Elena was "I know you won't understand my answer and my web site isn't ready so just learn how to use Google."
it was?? can you point me to that?? I must've said the wrong thing. sorry about that! that sounds a bit harsh. I don't believe you. prove it to me.
 
However, when you step in and demean a brand new poster by telling them that you know they won't understand something, you just insulted them. Don't you see that?
Exactly. And of course he doesnt, if he had a CLUE as to how abrasive he was, he would simply Shut The Front Door. But then maybe he does and does it for his own amusement. Either situation is unacceptable.
 
vba_php said:
I don't believe you. prove it to me.

From post #2 (yours) in response to Elena's question:

do you need any more detail than that? I would give you the link to my website page, but it is not finished yet as a whole. if you want to learn how to google properly, send me a PM here and I'll let you in and you can look at it.

"If you want to learn how to google properly" ... In other words, she obviously doesn't know how to use Google. There... quoted.

From post #2, same thread:

why don't you guys refrain from saying GOOD LUCK to a beginner!? I've told you multiple times. are you guys not listening? that makes people feel worthless.

You accuse me of being almost like a machine for being so impersonal, then when we try to offer a more personal touch you call us down.

From post #22, same thread:

That is too much for her to understand Richard.

I gave a step-by-step method to experiment and learn about VBA, which she claims is one of her weaknesses. You obviously don't think she can handle it. You are demeaning the person IN HER FACE. Adam, you do not seem to get it. You are a negative influence here. Jon hates outright bans but one has occurred in the last month. You, at least, do not engage in blatant vulgarity.
 
I am concerned with the UK's policy of "survival of the fittest." While the rest of the world is in lockdown, our crazy government seems to think its best to let it spread. "Herd immunity" they call it. I called it death in the 100's of thousands.
 
From post #2 (yours) in response to Elena's question:
"If you want to learn how to google properly" ... In other words, she obviously doesn't know how to use Google. There... quoted.
so essentially you lied, Richard. what you just quoted me as saying is not even close to what you originally said I said. do you see what I'm talking about now? Keep your hatred of me in check dude, otherwise your words change like I've just shown you. ;)
While the rest of the world is in lockdown, our crazy government seems to think its best to let it spread.
the hospital in my town is not letting anyone in besides patients and staff. now that is pretty stupid!
 
Adam, you are a brass-plated troll. NG gets it. Moke has blocked you because he gets it. Jon temporarily banned you because HE gets it. Colin (isladogs) has called you down because he gets it. Your comment implies that the OP was too dumb to know how to use Google. And I showed you and you denied it. Go back under your bridge.
 
At a loss. I am going to do something I have never done in this forum and block someone. He just called the ONLY person willing to talk to him a liar.

I used to think I would never encounter a more exhausting human being than my ex-wife. Goes to show if you live long enough...

Good riddance
 

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