Gun laws do they work

[ColinEssex]

enjoying bantering with you. anyway have a safe one or two months and lets hope that 2nd HA does not come any time soon!

Have a great time:>)
Bladerunner

I'm not going anywhere, unlike some who just give up and make a big song and dance about it. I'll still be browsing the forum but as it is all so boring (religion and guns) unless of course you are American, where these topics are hot stuff, it's easy to go a month or two and say nothing.

I will just log in as a guest, if in the rare event of anything of interest, then I will chip in if the urge overtakes.

Col

 

[Dick7Access]

I guess we will just have to wait on the edge of our seats for the next perils of wisdom.

Love it!!!!!!

 

[dan-cat]

You see, I do not trust people good side and the more desperate they are, well, you know. I really do hate to hear that but when you disarm the citizens as Germany did in 37', you need to expect the worse.

So you believe that the general public should be free to purchase any weapon capable of resisting the US military? eg. SMAWs, machine guns etc etc...

 

[Dick7Access]

So you believe that the general public should be free to purchase any weapon capable of resisting the US military? eg. SMAWs, machine guns etc etc...

I guess you haven't heard. Obama is calling in all Pinky's. They will all be sent to Gitmo.

 

[Bladerunner]

Then you would not need to carry guns as you would live in a civilised society.

Brian

Hi Brian: was wondering when you were going to get around to me. lol Yes, I see the little smiley. Why smiley,,,,,,,what big teeth you have!


Someone stated that more guns are creeping into the UK and being used for crimes!
A bit of advice: don't bring a knife to a gun fight!

Embrace every day as it were your last....You never know!

Have a great day :>)
Bladerunner

 

[Bladerunner]

The thing with laws is ...they exist, but it does not mean that people follow them. There will always be someone avoiding the law, and doing whatever they want. When it comes to guns however, this can unfortunately be very dangerous.

you are right! and in the UK society, the only ones with guns are going to be the criminals and of course the law. DO they have enough to put one at each door step?

Again how many people have to die. A certain percentage is acceptable????/ I believe that Chicago has the toughest guns laws in the US. You may own a gun and carry it around in your own home. You may not own one and carry it anywhere else including your front porch. Yet, They have the most murders sometimes 30-40 a weekend. Where do they get the guns???? not legally I can assure you. In fact for $100, I can almost go to any town in America and buy a gun from the street. I suspect it is the same World wide. Rem. one thing,,,, the criminals who have guns do not care if you die or not, They simply do not care.

Maybe we could institute a law whereby liberals would shield all the rest of us when the shooting starts since they seem to be invincible.

Have a nice day :>)

Bladerunner

 

[KenHigg]

you are right! and in the UK society, the only ones with guns are going to be the criminals and of course the law. ...)

Bladerunner

Common police do not even have guns - they have to call out a special 'gun' task group if gun force is required.

 

[Bladerunner]

I'm not going anywhere, unlike some who just give up and make a big song and dance about it. I'll still be browsing the forum but as it is all so boring (religion and guns) unless of course you are American, where these topics are hot stuff, it's easy to go a month or two and say nothing.

I will just log in as a guest, if in the rare event of anything of interest, then I will chip in if the urge overtakes.

Col

Glad to hear it. But you have hit the nail on the head. Religion and Guns are hot topics in the US ......why because they are under attack. The Atheist and liberals want to minimise religion ----why...... because it is easier to control people that have no morals, beliefs, etc. Pots heads (liberals) are an example. They have been told and actually believe that a gun toting cowboy like myself is going to go to a theater and start shooting everyone. lol....Guess that is why we call them POT heads. I guess UK has their share.

They also want guns taken away. Why because until then, the likelyhood of a governmental overthrow is not going to happen even if Obama did promise in his first term to have a civilian forces that was as well equipped, had as many personnel and was as well funded as the military. Well, He almost has them.

I stated to an Atheist once before on their thread that it would not be enough for gays to simply be married. They will have to be married in a church. If that church does not agree, then a legal fight will ensue with the government taking away any religious privileges from a church refusing to marry gays. After this, it is almost guaranteed that there will be two gays and one lawyer sitting outside of each church in the US to get married. It the church refuses, the lawyer simply hits them with a lawsuit. Since the church no longer is exempt, the membership of the church must bear the brunt of the lawsuit. At this time, religion and the church will disappear from visible sight of all but the believers. They (liberals and activists) will have won and the most powerful nation on earth will become no more than a third world country ripe for a takeover from someone like Russia and China. Who was it that said: they would tear us down from within:

Which is why I will not give up my guns or my religion until I breathe my last.

p.s. Russia has already got its foot on the throat of the EU whether most Europeans know it or not. In the case of France, exchange (know it) for don't care.

have a nice day:>)
Bladerunner

 

[Bladerunner]

So you believe that the general public should be free to purchase any weapon capable of resisting the US military? eg. SMAWs, machine guns etc etc...

there is such a thing as overstating it. If there is a problem in the near future, the military will be on our side.


Have a nice day :>)
Bladerunner

 

[Bladerunner]

Common police do not even have guns - they have to call out a special 'gun' task group if gun force is required.

That does not sound reassuring ?

have a nice day :>)
Bladerunner'

 

[dan-cat]

there is such a thing as overstating it. If there is a problem in the near future, the military will be on our side.


Have a nice day :>)
Bladerunner

Ok, so can you clarify for me what it is that makes a SMAW inappropriate for public access as opposed to a Bushmaster M4?

 

[Brianwarnock]

there is such a thing as overstating it. If there is a problem in the near future, the military will be on our side.


Have a nice day :>)
Bladerunner

If the military is on your side why do you need to be armed?

Brian

 

[Brianwarnock]

Someone stated that more guns are creeping into the UK and being used for crimes!

Embrace every day as it were your last....You never know!

Have a great day :>)
Bladerunner

I believe I did, it appears to be mainly criminal on criminal at the moment but yes it could get worse, however I don't yet live with the fear that you obviously do. You have my sympathy.

Brian

 

[Bladerunner]

Ok, so can you clarify for me what it is that makes a SMAW inappropriate for public access as opposed to a Bushmaster M4?

I will assume at some risk that the SMAW stands for a sem-automatic weapon. If it does not please let me know. to answer your question, I am sure they have a civilian version of the M4. Like the AR15 vs the M16 they are all 0.214 cal. or 22 cal. the difference being in the casing and in the case of a military weapon, their breech has been altered from the civilian version preventing the use of military rounds. Also there is the consequence of too much breech pressure when the shell is fired.

You ask why have one then (civilian version)... If you can afford the ammo, they are fun to shoot. Target, tournaments, hunting, etc.

There are many different disciplines in the art of shooting a weapon. It is sad you have never known that.


Have a nice day:>)
Bladerunner

 

[Bladerunner]

I guess you haven't heard. Obama is calling in all Pinky's. They will all be sent to Gitmo.

Should I ask what a Pinky is? OR NOT! lol

Have a nice day
Bladerunner

 

[Bladerunner]

I believe I did, it appears to be mainly criminal on criminal at the moment but yes it could get worse, however I don't yet live with the fear that you obviously do. You have my sympathy.

Brian

First of all, yes, it will get worse. Here, gangs like the bike gangs of old are popping up everywhere. They have no guilt, morals and no compunction about raping and killing anyone they meet. Some of them are still children yet you are just as dead as if they were adults. Would you live in Africa where warlords kill whole villages, hack peoples' head, arm, legs,etc. off, ra** anything that is a female. Never mind, I already know your answer.

Second, I fear not for myself but rather my children and grand kids.

I am glad you live in a Utopia but not all of us do.

Have a nice day:>)
Bladerunner

 

[Bladerunner]

Great point.

The military unless it is under a national mandate cannot enforce the law here. Possi-Comitatus Act.

By the way if the men and women in the 1700 did not have weapons (and they were greatly outnumbered. Their wepaons were also far from being superior to the British. If they did not have guns, would the British have stopped murdering people for the fun of it.

Have a nice day:>)

Bladerunner

 

[Brianwarnock]

I do not believe that the British murdered people for the fun of it, many in Britain saw it as a civil war, many agreed with the colonists, and in the end it needed a military power, France, to intercede and win the war for the colonists.

Brian

Ps the hunting rifles of the colonists actually out ranged and were better weapons all round than the muskets of the British, but yes they were outnumbered normally and had less if any heavy weapons.

 

[Dick7Access]

Common police do not even have guns - they have to call out a special 'gun' task group if gun force is required.

That would be of great comfort to me if some wacko is breaking down my front door.
I suppose that if you live in a place that things like that don't happen it would not be as relevant. Here in the US it happens many many times everyday.

 

[dan-cat]

You ask why have one then (civilian version)... If you can afford the ammo, they are fun to shoot. Target, tournaments, hunting, etc.

So am I getting this right? You disagree with the proposed tightening of semi-automatic weaponry as a response to a mass slaying of children because it may simply impinge on one's leisurely pursuits?