When does the winning start? (1 Viewer)

[moke123]

It's not a given at all that Trump or any other powerful figure for that matter is named in these documents anywhere.

Yes it is. There was testimony in Maxwells trial. I don't believe there was testimony of abuse but that wouldn't surprise me as it would be a trial strategy to keep the testimony narrowly tailored to the charges against maxwell.
The agents would have asked the victims about every known person who had visited the island.

Any videos or photos would also never see the light of day due to it being child porn.

 

[AccessBlaster]

This is a list of everyone made public so far, in no particular order.

• Donald Trump – Former U.S. President; associated with Epstein socially in the 1990s and flew on his jet but was not implicated in any crimes.
• Bill Clinton – Former U.S. President; flew on Epstein’s jet multiple times, denied wrongdoing, and was never implicated in Maxwell's trial.
• Ehud Barak – Former Prime Minister of Israel; had business ties with Epstein and was photographed entering his townhouse.
• Bill Richardson – Former Governor of New Mexico; named in legal documents but denied allegations.
• George Mitchell – Former U.S. Senator; named in legal filings but denied allegations.

• Prince Andrew – Duke of York; accused by Virginia Giuffre of sexual abuse (denied the claims and settled the lawsuit).

• Les Wexner – Billionaire, founder of L Brands (Victoria’s Secret); gave Epstein financial power over his assets.
• Leon Black – Billionaire and former Apollo Global Management CEO; paid Epstein millions but denied wrongdoing.
• Glenn Dubin – Hedge fund billionaire and Epstein friend; his family was mentioned in court documents.
• Thomas Pritzker – Hyatt Hotels billionaire; named in legal documents but denied wrongdoing.

• Alan Dershowitz – Harvard law professor, Epstein’s former lawyer; accused by Virginia Giuffre, but he denied it and sued for defamation.
• Ken Starr – Former U.S. solicitor general and Clinton investigator; represented Epstein in legal matters.

• Bill Gates – Microsoft co-founder; met with Epstein after his conviction, later called it a mistake.
• Larry Summers – Former Harvard president and U.S. Treasury Secretary; had ties to Epstein.
• Elon Musk – Mentioned in Epstein’s records, but he denied significant connections.

• Kevin Spacey – Actor; flew on Epstein’s jet and was photographed with Epstein and Prince Andrew.
• Chris Tucker – Actor; flew with Epstein and Bill Clinton on a charity trip to Africa but was not implicated in wrongdoing.
• Les Moonves – Former CBS CEO; had social ties with Epstein.
• Woody Allen – Filmmaker; socialized with Epstein but denied any connection to crimes.

• Jean-Luc Brunel – French modeling agent and Epstein associate; accused of trafficking young women. Died in prison.
• Naomi Campbell – Supermodel; flew on Epstein’s jet but denied any involvement in his activities.

• Jes Staley – Former CEO of Barclays and JPMorgan executive. Staley had a professional relationship with Epstein, and recent investigations have scrutinized the nature of their association.
• José María Aznar – Former Prime Minister of Spain. Aznar's name appeared in Epstein's contact list released by Attorney General Pam Bondi. The inclusion is believed to be due to business relations, with no evidence of inappropriate conduct.
• Alejandro Agag – Spanish businessman and former politician. Agag was also listed in Epstein's contact list, likely due to business connections, without any implication of misconduct.

 

[Pat Hartman]

Given that trump is surely named within those doc's I doubt you'll ever see much. I'm sure trump wouldn't hesitate to release them if they only contained info about Clinton. In fact those may be the only docs you'll see.

It is certainly possible that Trump took a trip on the Lolita express since the men knew each other. However keep in mind that Trump did throw Epstein out of Mar-A-Lago. I'm going to guess that we'll see some names that went one of two times. We also see many women's names. Were they also perverts who preferred young girls. But some people will ALWAYS think the worst of Trump regardless of whether he was a "frequent flyer" or just a one off visitor. Trump also has had his own plane for a long time so he is less likely to have hopped a lift to the Bahamas.

 

[AccessBlaster]

According to flight logs, Trump took at least one flight on Epstein’s Boeing 727 (Lolita express) in the early 1990s. Reports indicate that the flight was a short trip from Palm Beach, Florida, to Newark, New Jersey, and that Trump was accompanied by other passengers, including his then-wife Marla Maples and their daughter Tiffany Trump.

Trump later distanced himself from Epstein, claiming they had a falling out. Trump’s recorded flight activity is minimal.

Unlike Bill Clinton, whose name appears multiple times in the flight logs. Bill Clinton flew on Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727-200 (Lolita Express) multiple times, with flight logs showing at least 26 documented flights between 2002 and 2003.

Neither one is accused of going to the island. This is why it's important Pam Bondi keeps her word.

 

[Pat Hartman]

It is the flight logs that will tell the tail. The rich are always hopping rides on other people's planes. The random travellers who didn't go to the island were almost certainly not involved and I'm sure even some who went to the island, went on legitimate vacation trips where nothing ugly went on.

 

[moke123]

Neither one is accused of going to the island. This is why it's important Pam Bondi keeps her word.

I agree but I think your thinking about this too narrowly. Epstein had places all over, not just the Island. The flight logs are only a tiny piece.
There were hard drives and CD's found in his nyc mansion. Thousands pass by there everyday. No flight logs required. He also had places in West Palm, New Mexico, and France.

 

[AccessBlaster]

I agree but I think your thinking about this too narrowly. Epstein had places all over, not just the Island. The flight logs are only a tiny piece.
There were hard drives and CD's found in his nyc mansion. Thousands pass by there everyday. No flight logs required. He also had places in West Palm, New Mexico, and France.

Personally, I think it was a honeypot operation involving politicians and celebrities for blackmail. We know Maxwell was connected to Mossad through her father. CIA and or FBI were probably involved.

Diddy is another one to watch out for, hopefully he doesn't have any accidents.

 

[AngelSpeaks]

According to flight logs, Trump took at least one flight on Epstein’s Boeing 727 (Lolita express) in the early 1990s. Reports indicate that the flight was a short trip from Palm Beach, Florida, to Newark, New Jersey, and that Trump was accompanied by other passengers, including his then-wife Marla Maples and their daughter Tiffany Trump.

Trump later distanced himself from Epstein, claiming they had a falling out. Trump’s recorded flight activity is minimal.

Unlike Bill Clinton, whose name appears multiple times in the flight logs. Bill Clinton flew on Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727-200 (Lolita Express) multiple times, with flight logs showing at least 26 documented flights between 2002 and 2003.

Neither one is accused of going to the island. This is why it's important Pam Bondi keeps her word.

I can't see either one engaging with Epsteins sick and illegal activities.