Are you an atheist? (6 Viewers)

[Mike375]

Oh, so the bible is the true word of god, but the quran isn't.

Yes, that is correct.

 

[Mike375]

So god is one of those, do as I say not as I do types?

How can a man sacrifice his son to atone for our sins.

 

[Alisa]

Yes, that is correct.

What makes the bible more true than the quran? Other than your statement that it is.

 

[Mike375]

Was Exodus chaptrs7-12 Gods word, or the demanding of the "first born"?

Yes, God's doing.

 

[Alc]

I find it amazing that you and Alisa can't distinguish between God's teachings and events that are related in the Bible.

Following your logic God wants us to deny Him 3 times.

I find it amazing that, rather than give a straight answer about how people who believe in magical beings decide which stories to believe as real, you have to resort to thinly veiled insults about our inability to understand the things God is supposed to have said. Were the ten commandments something God said or just a nice story someone made up? Who gets to decide.

What about the sections where the bible clearly contradicts itself? Were those examples of God being misquoted on one or more occasions.

 

[Mike375]

What makes the bible more true than the quran? Other than your statement that it is.

Check both yourself.

 

[Alc]

What makes the bible more true than the quran? Other than your statement that it is.

You answered your own question there.
It's true because Mike says it is.
Ask a follower of the quran and I daresay you might get a different response.

 

[Mike375]

I find it amazing that, rather than give a straight answer about how people who believe in magical beings decide which stories to believe as real, you have to resort to thinly veiled insults about our inability to understand the things God is supposed to have said. Were the ten commandments something God said or just a nice story someone made up? Who gets to decide.

What about the sections where the bible clearly contradicts itself? Were those examples of God being misquoted on one or more occasions.

I have already said to you the stories/events are true.

The Bible is part God's word/teachings and part history book.

 

[Mike375]

You answered your own question there.
It's true because Mike says it is.
Ask a follower of the quran and I daresay you might get a different response.

Of course you will get a different response.

 

[Rich]

Yes, God's doing.

The actions of "a loving father", I think not

 

[Rabbie]

You answered your own question there.
It's true because Mike says it is.
Ask a follower of the quran and I daresay you might get a different response.

I am sure that any muslim would confirm that they believe that the quran was dictated by Allah to Muhammad.

No such claim is made for most of the New Testament books.

 

[Mike375]

The actions of "a loving father", I think not

So you believe what is in the Bible about Moses and Pharaoh?

 

[Alc]

I have already said to you the stories/events are true.

The Bible is part God's word/teachings and part history book.

So it's entirely true? God's word is true and history is, well, history, so the whole book, in spite of how far fetched it is in places is true?

All people DID come from the first two, in spite of there being no women beyond Eve until the story needed them?
The world WAS created in one week, allowing a day for God to cool down and have a rest?
All animals somehow came from two of each, in spite of the possibility of disease, etc. killing them off and the fact that it is impossible to have gathered two of each animal or to have fitted them onto one vessel?

 

[Alc]

I am sure that any muslim would confirm that they believe that the quran was dictated by Allah to Muhammad.

No such claim is made for most of the New Testament books.

No need - they're true.

 

[Rich]

So you believe what is in the Bible about Moses and Pharaoh?

Where did I say that?

 

[Rabbie]

Of course he did. But you have missed the point. God sacrificed Jesus to atone for our sins. How could that be possibly construed to mean man should sacrifice his son.

God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son.

 

[Mike375]

So it's entirely true? God's word is true and history is, well, history, so the whole book, in spite of how far fetched it is in places is true?

Yes.

All people DID come from the first two, in spite of there being no women beyond Eve until the story needed them?

We don't know that. Today a man might annoounce that he has just had a kid. He does not produce photos of the woman etc. On the other hand God did not need other women. Remember Adam and Eve?

The world WAS created in one week, allowing a day for God to cool down and have a rest?

That is what it says.

All animals somehow came from two of each, in spite of the possibility of disease, etc. killing them off and the fact that it is impossible to have gathered two of each animal or to have fitted them onto one vessel?

You are forgetting that this god created the entire universe. What you are talking about is child's play for Him.

He can use the laws of physics how he pleases. He can suspend the laws of physics, He can do what he wants.

 

[Mike375]

Where did I say that?

Your remark about God being a loving father with the

 

[Mike375]

God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son.

A specific request.

 

[Rich]

Your remark about God being a loving father with the

The Bible portrays god as the loving father