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Thales750

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Real cult members are often controlled by threat of violence from the cult leader like Charles Manson and influenced by them to do violent things to others (kill) or commit suicide for the cause (usually twisted biblical views). It's foolish to think that over half of America is in a cult and is killing everyone or themselves. Religion does not equate to cult.



This is just taking the negative connotation of the word cult and attributing it to your political party rivals. Nothing more. There is of course extremists on both sides because of the garbage in garbage out thing we talked about earlier, but extremist does not equate to cult. If all we do is watch our favorite news channel that leans the way we like, then we are getting a one sided filtered view of everything. That garbage in. Unfortunately, it takes a lot of effort to parse out what is true and what is false when the internet and media if full of false and misleading perspectives or out right lies. Especially the emotionally charged one's.
Not so. The bases for the cult label of MAGA, is the cult like status its worshipers. Their ability to ignore all facts, science, and any opposing political views is uncanny. It is why the unholy alliance between fundamentalist Christians and MAGA exist.

They really can't see how they are, but, everyone else can.
 

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Wow, I truly have never in my life known someone that is so obsessed with being right as you are.
Champion it is. You win all debates, lets hope the Savior get's elected to office.
You have a platform here to tell us what you think about things that matter to us all. But you can't defend your positions so you devolve to hate spewing. OK, it's a way but don't put that on me.
 

Thales750

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You have a platform here to tell us what you think about things that matter to us all. But you can't defend your positions so you devolve to hate spewing. OK, it's a way but don't put that on me.
The unwavering commitment. The Nazis did it, Trump does it. Cheating spouses use it. Deny, Deny Deny.
Take a morsal of truth and use it to make lies feel logical then repeated it until it is belief.

You divert, ignore, and you make long list to tire out people. You use practiced method so you can feel superior.

You believe that the raid on the Capital was a result of a democrat fixed election, and was a peaceful demonstration. Need I say more?
 

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Not if you do insane things like forcing people to stop cooking with gas or forcing pizza parlors to cook pizza with electricity - ick. I am 100% behind minimizing pollution and I abhor our overuse of plastic packaging. When my daughter was in the "Barbie" phase, I flatly refused to buy packages that contained a hundred tiny pieces of stuff, where each was made of plastic and then individually lassoed with plastic and stapled to a cardboard backing. Not only did it aggravate me to have to take it apart, it aggravated me permanently because the tiny pieces ended up all over the house. OK, maybe the cat had something to do with that. It wasn't all my daughter's fault.

I am also 100% against reducing my standard of living to that of peasants of the 17th century or even current day Afghanistan. There are very efficient types of energy available today. Natural gas and nuclear are two of them. Fleet vehicles like the PO and city vehicles can use natural gas. Relatively inexpensive with good distribution systems already in place. These vehicles come home at the end of a shift and so there is no problem with refueling them. And unlike EVs, they still work in the winter in northern climates. We don't need to ra** the earth for the metals needed to make batteries. We don't need to rebuild our roads and bridges to handle vehicles weighing twice as much as they were built to handle. We don't have to figure out how to efficiently recycle used batteries. Do some research. Find out how many EV charging stations the government has built with the ~8 billion dollars they were allocated during the past 3 years. Compare that to the number built by Tesla and at what cost.

Our electric grid is the most vulnerable part of our infrastructure. An enemy can send us to the dark ages in an instant and you probably think all vehicles should be electric. I guess you live a life where you can just skip going to the office or taking the kid to the doctor's if the power company shuts off the power to your EV charger because there is a heat wave or something happened to their energy source. Well, like it or not, electricity is currently primarily generated by coal and natural gas and some oil. Someday, solar and wind would become more efficient but TODAY, as we speak, nuclear could easily fill the gap - except that it takes more than a decade to get a new plant approved so I guess you'll have to ride your bike for a few years. Unless we can figure out a better way to distribute electricity, we need to generate it as close to where it is used as is feasible. How close to a coal fired plant are you willing to live? Small nukes have gotten feasible and very safe. The accident in Japan a few years ago was totally preventable. All the Japanese had to do was to tell the world what the problem was and help would have arrived immediately to prevent the leak. The further the distance electricity travels, the more of it that gets lost. So it is a very inefficient fuel in that regard. Also, generating it closer to where it is used, minimizes the damage that terrorists or enemies or even natural disaster can do to the country at large. Instead of taking out 5 power plants, terrorists have to take out 100 and destroy thousands of miles of power lines rather than just a few major ones.

Our goals are actually very much in sync. What deviates is how we think the problems should be solved.
I can't read this. Maybe try breaking it down to single defensible points.
 

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Exactly, and he didn't try to jail his political opponents, right?
He just accused the entire voting apparatus in the US as being corrupt. He then went on to encourage a Riot ot the capital. And he attempted to coerced a Georgian Official into "finding" some Trump votes.

Trump was convicted in a state court, if I am not mistaken. You know more power to the states. Or, does that only apply to Red ones?
 

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He just accused the entire voting apparatus in the US as being corrupt. He then went on to encourage a Riot ot the capital. And he attempted to coerced a Georgian Official into "finding" some Trump votes.

Trump was convicted in a state court, if I am not mistaken. You know more power to the states. Or, does that only apply to Red ones?
Most if not all of the above will be gone on appeal. The fact remains Biden is attempting to jail his political opponent, and that doesn't phase you one bit.
 

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Most if not all of the above will be gone on appeal. The fact remains Biden is attempting to jail his political opponent, and that doesn't phase you one bit.
What is really amazing,The Democrats are frantically screaming that the US Supreme Court's decision on immunity would help Trump. But Trump is not the president. Biden is the president and he is using the power of the state (lawfare) to persecute his political opposition. So it would seem that the Democrats would actually enthusiastically support the Supreme Court's decision as it protects Biden's abuse of power.
 

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The bases for the cult label of MAGA,...Their ability to ignore all facts, science, and any opposing political views...
Does that mean Joe Biden is in MAGA when he says his Uncle was eaten by cannibals?
 

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What is really amazing,The Democrats are frantically screaming that the US Supreme Court's decision on immunity would help Trump. But Trump is not the president. Biden is the president and he is using the power of the state (lawfare) to persecute his political opposition. So it would seem that the Democrats would actually enthusiastically support the Supreme Court's decision as it protects Biden's abuse of power.
Hey! The Democrats may be intellectually slow, but they are finally waking-up to the benefits of the Supreme Court's decision.
 

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