A possible scenario of the next 2 years

I said: 'encouraged insurrection.'

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'Lifelong Learner' in preach mode.
Lifelong learner doesn't mean that I never learn anything lol 😂
 
Is a snarky remark and Implies that you think that what I said isn't true.
I have explained that earlier. You are entitled to your interpretation whether its right or wrong .
BTW, I like the word 'snarky', not one we use here I don't think. We may do but I've never heard it before. It may be a slang Americanism.
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This scenario has actually been playing out for six years now. It is not because Trump can't handle defeat, but that the Democrats are fanatically consumed by Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS). Just recently Biden made the pledge that he would use every "legitimate" means to persecute Trump. The word "legitimate", in this case, is a exceptionally subjective (to the point it is meaningless) as the Biden administration is implementing Lavrentiy Beria infamous "Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime."
 
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Hillary is out of the picture forever. Trump is here and now. I don't understand why the two are always referred to together, if something negative is said about Trump.
Huh? They both ran for president just a few years ago. And they both might again.

Both of them have at least a touch if not more of the Stacey Abrams complex. Keep running for the rest of your life even if you lose every time
 
When Hillary ran, the Democrats had put up the only biped on the planet that would lose to Trump. Trump will keep running, and delaying. in hopes of getting Presidential immunity. Why would Hillary run? She can't beat anybody. Trump has been solidifying his base, and in the process he is losing moderates and even some Republicans. His strategy has only one winner-his bank account.
 
When Hillary ran, the Democrats had put up the only biped on the planet that would lose to Trump
Somehow that seems very easy to assert in hindsight doesn't it? But somehow, tens of thousands of strategists actually thought she could win at the time or they wouldn't have supported her.

The fact that you think Trump is a terrible candidate, but the best thing the Democrats could come up with lost to him in 2016, and only in hindsight you claim she was actually the worst candidate and the only person who could lose to trump, do you see all those things as a convenient coincidence? Seems very unlikely doesn't it?

I think we all have some trouble seeing that our logic is biased sometimes
 
I didn't come up with that line. I got it from George Will, a Republican. Hillary was toting too much luggage, as it turns out, an I think that was what Will was referencing. It was a surprise that she lost. I agree with Mr. Wills statement.
 
@jpl458
You have proof of this?
Here's two examples of how the deep state undermined the Trump administration.
1. Trump told the military to remove troops from the Middle East as well as from Germany. ON TV, they admitted to shuffling troops around to look like they were complying but they knew better and so never actually removed the troops. Disobeying a direct and unambiguous order from their Commander in Chief. Miley and the other members of the Joint Chiefs should be court marshalled.
Joint Chiefs Chair Milley Undermined Trump, Pentagon Officials on Afghanistan: Report | Newsmax.com
2. The Muller report confirmed that the FBI lied to the FISA courts to conduct illegal surveillance on Trump associates even AFTER Trump won in 2016. The Muller report did not find any evidence of "collusion" between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

And NOW we know for a fact that Hillary paid for the Steele dossier that set this whole fiasco in motion and cost you and me millions of dollars because the DNC was fined over $100,000 for this misuse of campaign funds and Hillary was fined $8,000 very quietly last year. I didn't even see this bit of news until a week ago so if none of the talking heads on Fox picked it up, it sure wasn't carried on the nightly news:( Apparently this is somehow different from the campaign finance violation (paying $130, 000 of personal/corporate funds to an EXTORTIONIST) that they keep trying to prosecute Trump for. The difference is quite clear if you care to open your eyes. Trump would have paid off the porn actress even if he were not running for President to keep Melania from hearing about it. Whereas Clinton had no use for the Steele lies except to hurt the Trump campaign and therefore help her own so that was clearly a campaign finance violation. It is not ambiguous at all. The NDA, in the Trump case is at worst ambiguous which is why the feds didn't even consider attempting to prosecute or even fine, Trump at the time it came out.

Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC fined by FEC over Trump-Russia dossier research | CNN Politics
 
I'm just waiting until they start calling Stormy Daniels a trafficking victim. Or some kind of a crime victim. That will probably be next, naturally
 
Though a seemingly improbable hoax, Biden's unparalleled level of absurdity and incompetence should begin to make millions of Americans suspicious. It just feels like it has to be a joke.

I mean, what else do you do with a president coming out to talk about a mass shooting, and saying he's just there for the ice cream? He can't form sentences, gets lost at his own house, and waves at dead people. How is this real??
 
Well they've definitely learned something over the past few years. And from the spectacular failure of their January 6th movie series that nobody watched

One thing you can't say about the Democrats is that they haven't learned a little bit about whether people are or are not wanting to move on from trump.

They sure moved on from that Nashville killing fast! Gee whiz I've never seen such speed:cautious:
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Rationalizing Actions by disguising or confusing it with Identity is the oldest story in the world.

RationalLies

Libs are full of contradiction. If a college administrator dares to suggest that possibly just maybe a 20 year old girl should not become severely intoxicated and walk around in her underwear, God help that administrator. "Don't blame the victim!"

But when a trans activists murders Christian kids all of a sudden they want to make sure we don't talk about the identity of either and all the sudden it's the trans community that's under attack and need our sympathy.

Always, always, always explore the hateful motivation that led to a mass killing. Except just not this one, please!

If liberals didn't have double standards they would have no standards at all

On MSNBC they call this sort of thing selective outrage, but they can't seem to recognize it when they do it...ouch
 
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@jpl458

Here's two examples of how the deep state undermined the Trump administration.
1. Trump told the military to remove troops from the Middle East as well as from Germany. ON TV, they admitted to shuffling troops around to look like they were complying but they knew better and so never actually removed the troops. Disobeying a direct and unambiguous order from their Commander in Chief. Miley and the other members of the Joint Chiefs should be court marshalled.
Joint Chiefs Chair Milley Undermined Trump, Pentagon Officials on Afghanistan: Report | Newsmax.com
2. The Muller report confirmed that the FBI lied to the FISA courts to conduct illegal surveillance on Trump associates even AFTER Trump won in 2016. The Muller report did not find any evidence of "collusion" between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

And NOW we know for a fact that Hillary paid for the Steele dossier that set this whole fiasco in motion and cost you and me millions of dollars because the DNC was fined over $100,000 for this misuse of campaign funds and Hillary was fined $8,000 very quietly last year. I didn't even see this bit of news until a week ago so if none of the talking heads on Fox picked it up, it sure wasn't carried on the nightly news:( Apparently this is somehow different from the campaign finance violation (paying $130, 000 of personal/corporate funds to an EXTORTIONIST) that they keep trying to prosecute Trump for. The difference is quite clear if you care to open your eyes. Trump would have paid off the porn actress even if he were not running for President to keep Melania from hearing about it. Whereas Clinton had no use for the Steele lies except to hurt the Trump campaign and therefore help her own so that was clearly a campaign finance violation. It is not ambiguous at all. The NDA, in the Trump case is at worst ambiguous which is why the feds didn't even consider attempting to prosecute or even fine, Trump at the time it came out.

Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC fined by FEC over Trump-Russia dossier research | CNN Politics
Couldn't find anything regarding your first point about the troop withdrawals. But did find articles on your 2nd and 3rd points. I don't think the first indictment of Trump has much meaning, it's more of a circus, but the others are pretty serious. Also, I never thought much of Hillary either, but I probably would a voted for her because I knew how Trump operated, from personal experience 25 years ago. He always tries not to pay his bills, and has spent more time in court, suing and being sued than just about anybody. Look at the number in his inner circle that were hurt just by trying to help him. It is my personal belief that whatever happens in the courts that hurts DJT, he brought it on himself. He is a malignant narcissist and only cares about himself.
 
Couldn't find anything regarding your first point about the troop withdrawals. But did find articles on your 2nd and 3rd points. I don't think the first indictment of Trump has much meaning, it's more of a circus, but the others are pretty serious. Also, I never thought much of Hillary either, but I probably would a voted for her because I knew how Trump operated, from personal experience 25 years ago. He always tries not to pay his bills, and has spent more time in court, suing and being sued than just about anybody. Look at the number in his inner circle that were hurt just by trying to help him. It is my personal belief that whatever happens in the courts that hurts DJT, he brought it on himself. He is a malignant narcissist and only cares about himself.
I just want to go on a record as saying that I agree to a large extent with much of your post. I have never said, at least I don't think so I hope not, but I thought Trump was a really good person or a person of really good exemplary character. He is what he is, like very many of our elected officials he is just the human face, the vehicle through which policies get implemented.

Of course it would be really cool if we could always elect a wonderful person of high character, but everybody knows there's very little chance of that, so I tend to focus on policies and motivations and outcomes and what's right or wrong to me for the country rather than personalities and individuals.

Do I wish I had someone other than Trump to represent the conservative cause right now? Absolutely.

But 90% of the conservative causes are still absolutely right and they are more desperately needed now than ever.

I agree that the Democrats have made substantial inroads in the last few years by focusing on Trump as a person. That's too bad, but embarrassment from that will not cause me to become confused about all the rest of it.

I would rather someone else was the nominee. Biden is corrupt as hell. But I do understand that many people don't care, they believe in the causes the Democrats are advancing and I can at least relate to that because I'm the same way with my candidate.
 
Do you think Merrick Garland is redacting the Trans killer's manifesto personally or is he having someone in the DOJ doing it? The Tennessee police seem to be derailed.
 
Do you think Merrick Garland is redacting the Trans killer's manifesto personally or is he having someone in the DOJ doing it? The Tennessee police seem to be derailed.

Lol yeah.

With "love and tolerance" like that, who needs hatred??

Interesting how I see people endlessly pour over the details of other mass shootings with seemingly boundless effort to explore any kind of hateful motivation that led to such a terrible act.
Except Nashville. Suddenly it's all, "let's not talk about that. The killer's motivation is just a distraction. Please don't bring up ideology, hate".

That word that you're frantically searching for right now ... That will explain it all away? It's spelled
h-y-p-o-c-r-i-s-y
 
I just want to go on a record as saying that I agree to a large extent with much of your post. I have never said, at least I don't think so I hope not, but I thought Trump was a really good person or a person of really good exemplary character. He is what he is, like very many of our elected officials he is just the human face, the vehicle through which policies get implemented.

Of course it would be really cool if we could always elect a wonderful person of high character, but everybody knows there's very little chance of that, so I tend to focus on policies and motivations and outcomes and what's right or wrong to me for the country rather than personalities and individuals.

Do I wish I had someone other than Trump to represent the conservative cause right now? Absolutely.

But 90% of the conservative causes are still absolutely right and they are more desperately needed now than ever.

I agree that the Democrats have made substantial inroads in the last few years by focusing on Trump as a person. That's too bad, but embarrassment from that will not cause me to become confused about all the rest of it.

I would rather someone else was the nominee. Biden is corrupt as hell. But I do understand that many people don't care, they believe in the causes the Democrats are advancing and I can at least relate to that because I'm the same way with my candidate.
I have long thought that anyone that really wants that office is suspect, just by wanting it. It's just that some appear more trustworthy than others. The most damaging thing that Trump did was to not participate in the peaceful transition of power. Al Gore (who did not invent the internet) stopped any further action in the election where he won the popular vote, but not the electoral vote because he understood history, and the damage such a challenge could cause. He put the country first, not himself, or his party. And, that kind of thinking is in short supply these days.
 

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